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<DIV><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hello everyone,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am trying to model a HVAC system that is composed of a central geothermal system that uses a heater/chiller with back up boilers to provide hot and chilled water to AHU for a VAV air-side system. Following the advice I found on the archives from the Loop to Loop Heatpump in eQuest discussion I modeled a system with a L2LHP that uses a lake/well loop (see screen shot). I made sure to zero out the static head for the GLHX and changed the max hot water temp in the hot water loop to 130F to be compatible with a heatpump. I compared this system to a basic chiller/boiler VAV system to see if it showed any signs of improvement and the results have been very puzzling. The geothermal system is using slightly less energy to cool but isn’t providing any heating to the system. Instead the boilers are providing all of the heating. When I remove the boilers to make the L2LHP provide all of the heating it is performing terribly using an enormous amount of electricity to heat. Also, I assumed that there would be a pumping power increase but the L2LHP is using about 3X the electricity as the boiler/chiller system and this seems way too large. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Has anyone had any luck modeling a system like this or has any ideas why my L2LHP model is using more energy than a standard chiller/boiler system? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Taylor Roberts, EIT</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Energy Solutions Intern</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Energy Solutions Group</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>E M C Engineers, Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Eaton's Electrical Services & Systems</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>970-208-7917</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>TaylorRoberts@Eaton.com</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></DIV></BODY></HTML>