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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Patrick!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Make the “slice” 1 inch wide (making the omitted
office space a negligible area), and make the “cut” faces adiabatic
in the second wizard screen (right click the perimeter wall edge), after defining
zones. This avoids extra envelope surface area/loads.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>I would make a second shell if the footprint and zoning is
significantly different. For each shell, specify 1 floor above or below
grade at the first wizard screen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Rob’s suggestion is a good alternative to consider and one
I’ve used before for different reasons: You will end up with
interior walls for the “courtyard” facing zones, as he’s
describing, which means there are extra steps to create exterior walls/windows
after the fact in detailed. I personally find the “slice”
approach a time saver overall since it tricks the wizard into automating all
the actual exterior surfaces... ultimately the “right” approach is
whatever you’re most comfortable with.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>An extra caution looking elsewhere in your screengrab, from
personal experience: always be careful to lock to your CAD vertices! “Close
enough” can trip you up down the road…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob
Hudson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Patrick Keeney<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Geometry Questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Only way to model two different floor plans is to have two
separate shells. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>For your other problem, if you trace the outside of the
building, and then when creating your zones leave the interior courtyard empty
then the wizard will not create any space/zones there. Once in the design
mode, delete your interior walls around the courtyard and create your exterior
walls in their places. This is the easiest method that I have been able
to come up with thus far in my experiences.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Rob<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Patrick Keeney <<a
href="mailto:38keeney@cardinalmail.cua.edu">38keeney@cardinalmail.cua.edu</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hello All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I am tryinig to model a 2 story building has a below
grade storage floor and an above grade office area. The office area is
doughnut shaped with an internal courtyard. My questions are:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>1. How would I model the internal courtyard? I have
created an AutoCAD drawing as a background image to trace. However,
because eQuest requires you to set the vertice points counter-clockwise, I
am unable to enclose the courtyard without missing a portion of
the outer office space. See attached image for what I
mean. Any advice?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2. For the below grade portion of the building, is
there anyway to model this floor without creating an entirely new
"shell" within the wizard. Since the below grade footprint is
different from the upper story footprint, I am not sure how to model the
upper and lower stories differently without creating an entirely separate
"shell."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Any help would be great. Thanks.<br clear=all>
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-- <br>
Patrick J Keeney<br>
MArch-MSSD Candidate<br>
<a href="tel:410-299-5627" target="_blank">410-299-5627</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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