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The graphs are “per AAMA 507.” They also have charts for NFRC 100 overall U factors and NFRC 200 SHGC and VT.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think the LEED reviewers just want to make sure we’re accounting for the frames and not just getting COG.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Take care!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'>MARK DARRALL, AIA, LEED AP BD+C, NCARB<br>Senior Project Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'><img width=136 height=55 id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CC0B5E.53EE9DC0" alt=a2so4-email></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'>DESIGN ENRICHING LIFE // LIFE ENRICHING DESIGN<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'>A2SO4 Architecture, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'>Union Station</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'>300 South Meridian Street / 250</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'>Indianapolis</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'>, </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'>Indiana</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'>46225</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'><br>TEL 317 388 8850<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'>FAX 317 280 0692<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'>MOB 765 749 0841<br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'><a href="www.a2so4.com">www.a2so4.com</a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:green'>.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. 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Neither the sender nor the company for which he or she works accepts any liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Alex Krickx [mailto:akrickx@seriousmaterials.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> Carol Gardner; Mark Darrall<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Modeling regular curtain wall systems<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You can create curtainwall systems in Window and Therm – but I don’t believe that eQUEST will import any of the frame conductance data. I think the best way to model curtainwall systems is to model the frame in THERM and WINDOW5, create a DOE2 report file – then import that file into eQUEST and manually edit the frame width and conductance to match what you calculated in WINDOW5/THERM.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#262F13'>Alex Krickx, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Building Energy Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=121 height=42 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CC0B5E.53EE9DC0" alt="email_sig"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1250 Elko Dr, Sunnyvale, CA 94089<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(t) 408.541.8124<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Warning:</span></i></b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> The information contained in this e-mail may be privileged attorney-client communications or attorney work product and/or proprietary and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient then you have received it in error and any review, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited and you are to notify us immediately by reply e-mail and delete the original message immediately.</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carol Gardner<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 05, 2011 4:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Darrall<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Modeling regular curtain wall systems<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Intriguing question. I did just a little looking around and found: <cite><a href="http://windows.lbl.gov/software/NFRC/NFRCSim6.3-2010-Manual.pdf">windows.lbl.gov/software/NFRC/NFRCSim6.3-2010-Manual.pdf</a>.</cite><i><br><cite>which is a link to the user manual for Window and Therm. Check it out. You can create things, windows,etc., maybe even curtainwalls, using Window and import them into eQUEST</cite><br><br><cite>Carol</cite></i><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Mark Darrall <<a href="mailto:MDarrall@a2so4.com">MDarrall@a2so4.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What’s the best way to input a curtain wall system to allow for the repetitive vertical mullions? I can calculate system U factor based on the area of vision glass : overall area, but I don’t see a way to input that directly…unless:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If the vertical mullions are already captured in the system U factor can I just ignore it and treat it like one huge picture window? So at FRAME-WIDTH I would just enter the width and properties of the perimeter frame and then at GLASS-CONDUCTANCE enter the corrected U-factor for the system?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I did search this in <a href="http://onebuilding.org" target="_blank">onebuilding.org</a>, but didn’t see it addressed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'>MARK DARRALL, AIA, LEED AP BD+C, NCARB<br>Senior Project Manager</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'><img border=0 width=136 height=55 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CC0B5E.53EE9DC0" alt=a2so4-email></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light"'>DESIGN ENRICHING LIFE // LIFE ENRICHING DESIGN</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'>A2SO4 Architecture, LLC</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light";color:#333333'>Union Station</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light"'><br><span style='color:#333333'>300 South Meridian Street / 250</span><br><span style='color:#333333'>Indianapolis</span>, <span style='color:#333333'>Indiana</span> <span style='color:#333333'>46225</span><br>TEL <a href="tel:317%20388%208850" target="_blank">317 388 8850</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light"'>FAX <a href="tel:317%20280%200692" target="_blank">317 280 0692</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Univers LT 45 Light"'>MOB <a href="tel:765%20749%200841" target="_blank">765 749 0841</a><br><span style='color:#333333'><a href="http://www.a2so4.com" target="_blank">www.a2so4.com</a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail</span></b><span style='color:green'>.</span><span style='color:navy'> </span><span style='color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#333333'>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. 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