Matthew, depending on the size of your building, your baseline may not have a CW loop, in which case the intent of being cost-neutral towards thermal energy not generated inside the LEED boundary is satisfied. Agree on the suggested CIR, however.<div>
<br></div><div><br><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Anthony Hardman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Anthony@greenengineer.com">Anthony@greenengineer.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The DES definition uses the terms “thermal energy” derived outside the LEED project boundary. You could certainly make the case that your condenser loop fits this definition. Might be worth submitting a CIR for clarification though. Changing your baseline after the fact is never fun. </span></p>
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</div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p><span lang="EN">Does anyone have experience with district thermal energy by means of a central condenser water loop? I'm trying to determine whether this type of application is subject to the LEED District Thermal Energy Guidelines, like purchased CHW and Steam, or if I can compare to a baseline system in Appendix G based on building type/size. </span></p>
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