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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mathew,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Before you submit a CIR (now called LEED Interpretations –
LEED 2009), you should be sure to review the revised DES modeling methodology (v2.0)
that is available on the USGBC web site. I believe it addresses your situation
and it definitely provides clearer guidance than the original document. You can
access it using this link: <a
href="http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=7671">http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=7671</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Hope this helps, if not you may be stuck with getting an
interpretation. Have a great day!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cam Fitzgerald<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Arpan
Bakshi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Hardman<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] District Thermal Energy Savings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Matthew, depending on the size of your building, your
baseline may not have a CW loop, in which case the intent of being cost-neutral
towards thermal energy not generated inside the LEED boundary is satisfied.
Agree on the suggested CIR, however.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Anthony Hardman <<a
href="mailto:Anthony@greenengineer.com">Anthony@greenengineer.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'>The DES definition uses the terms “thermal
energy” derived outside the LEED project boundary. You could
certainly make the case that your condenser loop fits this definition.
Might be worth submitting a CIR for clarification though. Changing your
baseline after the fact is never fun. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Matthew W. Higgins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] District Thermal Energy Savings</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang=EN>Does anyone have experience with district thermal energy by
means of a central condenser water loop? I'm trying to determine whether this
type of application is subject to the LEED District Thermal Energy Guidelines,
like purchased CHW and Steam, or if I can compare to a baseline system in
Appendix G based on building type/size. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN>Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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