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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Otto,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I do the same as Aaron – I’ll use Window6 to create my window (or glass package rather) and then edit the frame details in eQUEST to match what Window6 gives as the frame U-value <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think that the comment windows and frame are different thermodynamically is true, but I have a caveat: the U-value of the frame and glass are correlated. If you take the same frame and change the glass package then the u-value of the frame will be slightly different in each scenario – it’s not a huge difference but it’s not 0 either.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The one thing that I’ve found really strange (or frustrating?) is that the there is a “spacer type” you can select in eQUEST (Window Properties > Basic Specs) that seems to have the same options as the spacers in Window6. The problem is: when you change spacer type in Window6 you can see some pretty noticeable changes in overall window performance, but when you change that field in eQUEST I’ve gotten 0 change in my model (checking the LV-D for reported frame-inclusive U-value). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#262F13'>Alex Krickx, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>Building Energy Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><img width=121 height=42 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CC057E.0B5A7EC0" alt="email_sig"></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'>1250 Elko Dr, Sunnyvale, CA 94089<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'>(t) 408.541.8124<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Warning:</span></i></b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> The information contained in this e-mail may be privileged attorney-client communications or attorney work product and/or proprietary and confidential. 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AM<br><b>To:</b> Otto Schwieterman; Bruce Easterbrook<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Window6 eQUEST Results<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'>Otto – <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'>Re: baseline strategy – what you describe used to be our strategy as well (selecting the window that was closest from the library).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'>However, on LEED projects, a number of reviewers took issue with that approach, and requested that our models match the u-val and SHGC of the standard exactly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'>We often define baseline windows using the simplified method to match the standard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'>One of the caveats with the “close as possible” library approach is that ASHRAE hasn’t released specific spectral / angular performance curves for the baseline glass …<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:150%;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'>Aaron Dahlstrom , PE, LEED® AP</span></b><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal 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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:gray'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Otto Schwieterman<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce Easterbrook<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Window6 eQUEST Results<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Bruce,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I ended up selecting a window in the eQUEST library that was very similar to the results that I got from Window6. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>What are others doing for creating their windows in eQUEST? Are you selecting the window from the library that is the most similar to the window that you are using? Are you importing the glass from Window6 or are you creating the window in eQUEST?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>What are you using for the ASHRAE 90.1 baseline window? I typically select the window from the library that is the closest to the baseline window values.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Bruce Easterbrook [mailto:bruce5@bellnet.ca] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> Otto Schwieterman<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Window6 eQUEST Results<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>eQuest treats the glass and the frame as separate items. They are totally different thermodynamically. There is much more to window glass than just insulation value. I normally create windows and frames inside eQuest. You could then just check with window6 to confirm your overall value. I don't believe many people are having success importing window data from other programs.<br>Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.<br>Abode Engineering<br></span><br>On 28/04/2011 09:23 AM, Otto Schwieterman wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello everyone,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I created a window using Window6 and the results appear to be correct but when I import it into eQUEST the frame does not appear to import. The total window U-Value in eQUEST is 0.25 which makes sense if it does not include the frame but the results from Window6 shows a complete U-Value of 0.434.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any help is appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Otto<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><pre>________________________________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc. intends to send this transmission (including any attachments) only to the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>designated individual or entity. 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