<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:10pt">I thought E+ is a free program? I would be interested to hear from anyone who has used Google SketchUp and the Open Studio Plug-in to generate a 3D view in E+.<br><br>I would like to hear more about the discrepancies between eQuest and E+ from those who use both programs.<br><br>Paul Diglio<br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez <pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> deepika khowal <deepika.khowal@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
energyplus_support <EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com>; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, April 28, 2011 1:27:44 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] equest and energy plus outputs<br></font><br>
<div dir="ltr"><div>Hmmm- an energy plus model showed 50% less energy use (EUI) than eQuest? Did you use the same weather files? (i.e. convert the EPW you used in E+ to .bin and use the same weather file in eQuest?)</div>
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<div>If this is truly the case, this is unsettling as a simulator. Wouldn't it be safer for our clients to error on the conservative side and give the eQuest results instead of the E+ results?</div>
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<div>Also--if this is the case, then what is the market advantage to spending thousands of dollars on E+ software rather than use the FREE-ware eQuest program??</div>
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<div>I'd appreciate any commentary to help me "see the light" of this topic. And if Deepika is willing to share a visual of his energy results output, I'm super curious to see what it is showing...</div>
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<div>Good question/good info...thanks,</div>
<div>Pasha</div>
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<div>Korber Energy Consultants</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:11 PM, deepika khowal <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:deepika.khowal@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:deepika.khowal@gmail.com">deepika.khowal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Thanks Joe
<div>Even I realized the same thing. the total energy use in Energy plus was almost 50% less than equest.</div>
<div>If this is the case, who would you know that you model is working fine?
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Joe Huang <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">I was involved in a two year project 2005-2007 to convert the Calif. Energy Commission's Title-24 certification suite of building tests from DOE-2.1E to EnergyPlus. There are some areas where it's difficult to get comparable inputs due to differences or limitations in the models. The differences between the two programs varied a lot depending on the building, weather, and HVAC system. For the CEC certification suite of 160 runs, cooling results were more consistent, within 10% in most cases, with EnergyPlus almost always on the high side; for heating, the differences were much greater, sometimes with EnergyPlus being 40-60% lower than DOE-2.1E. I have a 120-page report on this comparison, but haven't bothered to put it on the Web.<br>
<br>Joe<br><br>Joe Huang<br>White Box Technologies, Inc.<br>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 108D<br>Moraga CA 94556<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.whiteboxtechnologies.com/">www.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><br>
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<br><br><br>deepika khowal wrote:<br>
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<div>HI All<br>I am trying to create same model in equest and energy plus to see whether i see same results and just to validate my simulation files.<br>has anyone done this before?<br>I would like to know what is the % difference in both software outputs?<br>
Thanks<br>Deepika<br></div></div>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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