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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The whole building is the way I have always read it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So you can have an all glass North wall (100%) and then 10% glass for E,W,&S and have a total window-wall ratio of 32.5%. But if you have a North wall with 100% glass and an E,W,&S wall with 40% glass, you now have to prorate each exposure down. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>--> (1+0.4+0.4+0.4) / 4 = 55% which is greater than 40%. 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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Newman<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> Dana Troy<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Fenestration and Window to Wall Ratio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Correct, so if your proving prescriptive compliance you can use below grade walls, while if your proving compliance through performance modeling then you can only usie above grade walls per ASHRAE 90.1 Appendix G.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The question that I still have is should the whole building be averaged for fenestration percentage or should each face have its own percentage?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#87C139'>James M. Newman, EIT, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#48494A'>project engineer / energy analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#87C139'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dana Troy [mailto:DTroy@glumac.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 08, 2011 5:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> James Newman<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Fenestration and Window to Wall Ratio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>90.1 <u>Appendix G</u> states: "Vertical fenestration areas for new buildings and additions shall equal that in the proposed design or 40% of gross above-grade wall area, whichever is smaller."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>If you are using 90.1 as your State's code, then you can include the below-grade wall area. If you are <u>modeling</u> using Appendix G, then you cannot include the below grade wall area in your calculations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-Dana<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Dana Troy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Senior Energy Analyst<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>GLUMAC | 503.227.5280<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: James Newman [mailto:James.Newman@me-engineers.com] <br>Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:29 PM<br>To: Sunayana Jain<br>Cc: equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Fenestration and Window to Wall Ratio<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>This paragraph comes directly out of the ASHRAE 90.1-2007 User Manual:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>"Window-Wall Ratio: The window-wall ratio is the ratio of vertical fenestration area to gross exterior wall area. The fenestration area is the rough opening, i.e., it includes the frame, sash, and other nonglazed window components. The gross exterior wall is measured horizontally from the exterior surface; it is measured vertically from the top of the floor to the bottom of the roof. The gross exterior wall area includes below-grade as well as above-grade walls. It is necessary to calculate the window-wall ratio with all compliance options, since this information is need with the prescriptive option, the trade-off option, and the energy cost budget method."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>James M. Newman, EIT, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>project engineer / energy analyst<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: Sunayana Jain [mailto:sunayana_jain@neo.tamu.edu] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 4:20 PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: James Newman<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Cc: equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Fenestration and Window to Wall Ratio<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi James,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>As per my understanding, window wall ratio is considered for above grade walls only for each orientation of building (not floor to floor).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sunayana Jain<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>LEED AP, EIT<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Energy Engineering Specialist<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: "James Newman" <James.Newman@me-engineers.com><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 5:29:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: [Equest-users] Fenestration and Window to Wall Ratio<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>When calculating the window to wall ratio for your baseline building, should you calculate this percentage as <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>· an entire building? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>· each building elevation? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>· every floor elevation? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Has anyone had an interpretation on this issue? I was reading through the 90.1 User manual and discovered that both above grade walls and below grade walls should be considered for the wall to wall ratio which leads me to believe the calculation should be done as a whole building percentage. Just curious if someone knows the correct answer. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>James M. 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