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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dane,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here are two ways you can model a space
with a vaulted ceiling.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In the wizard, Bldg Envelope & Loads,
Screen 2, set <span class=SpellE>Flr</span>-To-Ceil height equal to <span
class=SpellE>Flr-To-Flr</span> height, so that no ceiling plenum is created. On
the same screen, check the “pitched roof” box. An “Under Roof”
space will be created and assigned to the top floor of the building. Unfortunately,
you can’t tell eQUEST to combine the Under Roof space with the space(s)
below it. There will be “<span class=SpellE>UnderRf</span>”
surfaces assigned to the spaces below the Under Roof space. These act like horizontal
ceiling surfaces. Once you switch to DD Edit mode, you can do one of these
options:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list .5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>     </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>You can change these <span class=SpellE>UnderRf</span> surfaces to Air
Walls to enhance conduction. If you just delete them, you remove any conduction
between the Under Roof space and the spaces below it, which might be acceptable
if you do option 2.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list .5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>     </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>You can additionally, or optionally, assign the roof surfaces of
the Under Roof space to the space(s) below it. This may require adjusting the X<span
class=GramE>,Y</span> and Z coordinates of the roof surfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I usually do option 1. There may be an
advantage to option 2 that is not occurring to me. I don’t know which one
would be more thermally accurate, especially considering that eQUEST does not
model thermal stratification.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dane Heimerman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 26, 2011
4:56 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Equest-users] Attic
Space</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi there,<br>
I'm trying to model a small commercial building with vaulted ceilings, and
can't figure out where to specify this. One help screen says:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:navy;font-weight:bold'>"Top Floor Ceiling Finish</span></font></b>
is only available if a Top Floor Attic has been specified on the Building
Footprint screen. <font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>Top Floor Attic</span></font>
is currently available only for multifamily building types."<o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I
don't see where to uncheck this option though.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Anybody
done a vaulted ceiling before with no attic space?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks,<br style='mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dane Heimerman<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>HVAC Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Michael L. Norris & Associates, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:Street
w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt'>270 Walker Dr, Suite 201B</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt'>State College</span></font></st1:City>, <st1:State
 w:st="on">PA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">16801</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>p:814.867.3823<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>f:814.867.4823<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="mailto:daneh@mlnai.com">daneh@mlnai.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></div>

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