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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I just finished a LEED review comment/response with a reviewer where
I entered zeroes - there was no comment to this entry.  It’s hard to
judge, but I would place this reviewer as someone higher-ranking than “eQuest
novice” but neither is he/she a seasoned veteran (I had to resist the
urge to correct the manner in which certain reports were used to perform the review…
I have to remind myself that’s not my job!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Whether this input is even considered is ultimately up to the
individual reviewer as everyone is saying, so I also suggest using just zeroes
on your first submittal, rather than potentially wasting time coming up with a
guess.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To my knowledge, there is simply no reasonably quick process to accurately
determine the number of red and blue input fields used in a model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Here’s a stab in the dark though:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Open your project’s .inp file in Microsoft Word 2007.  Ctrl+f
and input the text “..” without quotes, then press the “Find
in  </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>à</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Main
document” button.  It will return the number of instances your .inp
contains “..”  Assume that each unique BDL component is a “default
override” and feed the reviewer that number explaining how you got it, if
they really want to see something other than zero.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob
Fassbender<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dakota Kelley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED Paperwork - Defaults Overridden<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I can confirm this as well (that you should just ballpark
the number). Try to consider this from a LEED reviewer's point of view tho;
they are really looking to see if you changed any value abnormally. I think the
original intent was "Major defaults overridden". So, for instance, if
you changed default load methodologies, or something that most users do not
change, that is what they want to know about. However, if many people are
putting hundreds of defaults overridden, this may become what the LEED reviewer
expects to see anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I have to say the reviewers
have gotten pretty savvy over the last few years and most of them probably see
that you are using eQUEST, and then they understand (because eQUEST has so many
defaults, by it's nature of being a fast simulation tool). Remember that some
reviewers are more familiar with certain software, so if they ask, it's likely
that they aren't too familiar with eQUEST, and you need to explain that eQUEST
has defaults for nearly every value (though in my experience, eQUEST is the
most well-known by LEED reviewers).<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Dakota Kelley <<a
href="mailto:dakotak@teliospc.com">dakotak@teliospc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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style='color:#1F497D'>Yes, I’d echo Bill’s advice here. Estimate a
reasonable number and run with it – like the Target Finder score, this
information is used as a soft check for the model’s
“reasonableness”, but it also depends on the modeling software.
I’ve had one question before about why so many defaults were overridden,
and my response was basically “you can’t incorporate Appx G or the
proposed design in eQUEST without overriding many, many defaults” (the
project was accepted).</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>
Bishop, Bill [mailto:<a href="mailto:wbishop@pathfinder-ea.com" target="_blank">wbishop@pathfinder-ea.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> M. Shields; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED Paperwork - Defaults Overridden</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Michael,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>My suggestion – don’t waste
time on “defaults overridden”. You can’t leave it blank
– the online template won’t let you. For my first submission, I put
“1776” and “2008” (years – I was feeling
patriotic), but the reviewer asked why I changed so many defaults. So I lowered
it closer to zero. Try putting numbers less than 20 and change them if your
reviewer asks about it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Bill</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>William Bishop, PE, BEMP, LEED<sup>®</sup>
AP </span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#006600'>|</span></b><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Pathfinder Engineers & Architects LLP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>Mechanical Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:5.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Error!
Filename not specified.</b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:navy'>134 South
Fitzhugh
Street                
Rochester, NY 14608<br>
T: (585) 325-6004 </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>Ext. 114</span><span
style='color:navy'>               
</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:navy'>F: (585) 325-6005</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><a href="mailto:wbishop@pathfinder-ea.com"
target="_blank">wbishop@pathfinder-ea.com</a>          
<a href="http://www.pathfinder-ea.com/" target="_blank">www.pathfinder-ea.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><span
style='color:green'>   </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
color:green'>Sustainability – the forest AND the trees.</span><span
style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'> P </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>M. Shields<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] LEED Paperwork - Defaults Overridden</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Good
Morning All,<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>

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know this has come up in the past and I have seen several responses from going
through and counting all of the schedules to just estimating.  Regardless
of how you have determined this value has anyone then included a description of
how this was done in their narrative, or has anyone ever gotten any questions
from their reviewer about how the number was tabulated?  Also has anyone
ever left it blank as an unquantifiable number?  I think I could spend
days trying to count every default of my model and still be off by hundreds.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks
for any feedback,<o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif"'>____________________________<br>
Michael Shields</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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