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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Another users forum that was proposed a couple of months ago is <a href="http://www.esimforums.com">www.esimforums.com</a>. It seems to already be very organized and if users remain as professional there as they do on this mailing list, it can become a complete resource for eQuest modelers. There is a reluctance, for one reason or another, to change from this mailing list to any of the proposed wiki/forum options that have come up recently. It’s nice to see more and more people interested in creating a knowledge-base that is user friendly though. Perhaps there is a way to merge the existing with the new.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>John T. Forester, P.E., LEED AP, Mechanical Design Engineer </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0000A0'>I BVH Integrated Services I</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>617.658.9008 tel </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0000A0'>I</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'> </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>617.244.3753 fax</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0000A0'> </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0000A0'>I</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'> </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>One Gateway Center Suite 506, Newton MA 02458 </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0000A0'>I <a href="http://www.bvhis.com">www.bvhis.com</a> I Hartford ● New Haven ● Boston</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Smith, Michael<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 14, 2011 3:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Arpan Bakshi; Chris Jones<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Advanced Level Equest Classes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#002060'>It is pretty bare at the moment, but here is the the IBPSA Wiki:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#002060'><a href="http://bembook.su-per-b.org/index.php?title=Main_Page">http://bembook.su-per-b.org/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333399'>Michael J. 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Again, circling back to the idea of a knowledge community like onebuilding, in lieu of a marketplace.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Chris Jones <<a href="mailto:cj@enersave.ca">cj@enersave.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>The topic I consider advanced is modelling different floor plate shapes on each floor - with a multi-storey atrium in the middle. The atrium has corridor catwalks for crossing from one side of the building to another. Supply air is transferred into the atrium from the surrounding spaces - the atrium is a return air plenum for multiple air handlers. <br><br>I would gladly pay for a step by step tutorial on setting up the geometry for such a building.<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’ve been in discussions with those who make a business of eQuest/DOE2 instruction regarding this issue… I think a major reason we don’t see many ‘advanced’ classes is: it would be very hard to develop a rubric/syllabus for an ‘advanced’ group of learners as it would seem there aren’t many ‘advanced’ topics that aren’t extremely system/project-specific (therefore seemingly of little interest to a group of learners at large). <br> <br>One exception that comes to mind that would probably be of common interest might be the evaluation and creation of chiller & heatpump performance curves – that skillset is frankly tough to self-learn (it took me a long while and multiple projects)… <br> <br>As an aside: I might also cite a real-world experience where a local rep for Carrier hosted an event that included discussion/instruction for a single, narrow ‘advanced’ eQuest topic: geothermal well-field design using eQuest/DOE2. The room was <u>packed*</u>! I hope more equipment reps in time will recognize the value and potential draw when advanced eQuest topic instruction is offered, even if only for a very narrow sort of system/topic.<br> <br>If you really would like formal, ‘advanced’ instruction, you might be best-advised to come up with a list of topics you want instruction/guidance on (make your own personal rubric), and share that list either publicly on the lists or directly with those who offer training services – you may be able to then filter out who is able and is willing to teach you some or all of your desired instruction individually, and at what cost. <br> <br>~Nick<br> <br>* I would be remiss to not mention Anthony Hardman (frequent contributor to these lists) provided that instruction, and it was excellent.<br> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Chris Jones<br>14 Oneida Avenue<br>Toronto, ON M5J 2E3.<br>Tel. 416-203-7465<br>Fax. 416-946-1005<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Equest-users mailing list<br><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org</a><br>To unsubscribe from this mailing list send a blank message to <a href="mailto:EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG">EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>