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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Arpan
Bakshi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 14, 2011 2:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Advanced Level Equest Classes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It may be of value to transition some of this
advanced modeling discussion towards a webpage where we can collect these step
by step tutorials, as Chris mentions, to build our communal knowledge
base. Again, circling back to the idea of a knowledge community like
onebuilding, in lieu of a marketplace.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Chris Jones <<a
href="mailto:cj@enersave.ca">cj@enersave.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The topic I consider advanced is modelling different floor
plate shapes on each floor - with a multi-storey atrium in the middle.
The atrium has corridor catwalks for crossing from one side of the building to
another. Supply air is transferred into the atrium from the surrounding
spaces - the atrium is a return air plenum for multiple air handlers. <br>
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I would gladly pay for a step by step tutorial on setting up the geometry for
such a building.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I’ve been in discussions with those who make a business of
eQuest/DOE2 instruction regarding this issue… I think a major reason we don’t
see many ‘advanced’ classes is: it would be very hard to develop a
rubric/syllabus for an ‘advanced’ group of learners as it would seem there
aren’t many ‘advanced’ topics that aren’t extremely system/project-specific
(therefore seemingly of little interest to a group of learners at
large). <br>
<br>
One exception that comes to mind that would probably be of common interest
might be the evaluation and creation of chiller & heatpump performance
curves – that skillset is frankly tough to self-learn (it took me a long while
and multiple projects)… <br>
<br>
As an aside: I might also cite a real-world experience where a local rep
for Carrier hosted an event that included discussion/instruction for a single,
narrow ‘advanced’ eQuest topic: geothermal well-field design using
eQuest/DOE2. The room was <u>packed*</u>! I hope more equipment
reps in time will recognize the value and potential draw when advanced eQuest
topic instruction is offered, even if only for a very narrow sort of
system/topic.<br>
<br>
If you really would like formal, ‘advanced’ instruction, you might be
best-advised to come up with a list of topics you want instruction/guidance on
(make your own personal rubric), and share that list either publicly on the
lists or directly with those who offer training services – you may be able to
then filter out who is able and is willing to teach you some or all of your
desired instruction individually, and at what cost. <br>
<br>
~Nick<br>
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* I would be remiss to not mention Anthony Hardman (frequent contributor to
these lists) provided that instruction, and it was excellent.<br>
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Chris Jones<br>
14 Oneida Avenue<br>
Toronto, ON M5J 2E3.<br>
Tel. 416-203-7465<br>
Fax. 416-946-1005<o:p></o:p></p>
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