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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>Since Nick so kindly put the first few ideas on the table for what should be offered for advanced training (Thanks Nick!) I thought I would second the custom chiller and heatpump curve but also add that an advanced course on the refrigeration version of DOE2.2/eQuest would also be useful. Owners of refrigerated facilities don't want to be left in the cold (pun definitely intended) when it comes to LEED but simulation tools are difficult to find and use for that industry. Compressor curves would need to be on the topic list since watching a colleague struggle for weeks to get the right curve setup and operating for a project, only to have the owner change equipment vendors a week later.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org on behalf of Nick Caton<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wed 1/12/2011 12:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Charles Land; James Newman; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] Advanced Level Equest Classes<BR></FONT><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’ve been in discussions with those who make a business of eQuest/DOE2 instruction regarding this issue… I think a major reason we don’t see many ‘advanced’ classes is: it would be very hard to develop a rubric/syllabus for an ‘advanced’ group of learners as it would seem there aren’t many ‘advanced’ topics that aren’t extremely system/project-specific (therefore seemingly of little interest to a group of learners at large). </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">One exception that comes to mind that would probably be of common interest might be the evaluation and creation of chiller & heatpump performance curves – that skillset is frankly tough to self-learn (it took me a long while and multiple projects)… </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">As an aside: I might also cite a real-world experience where a local rep for Carrier hosted an event that included discussion/instruction for a single, narrow ‘advanced’ eQuest topic: geothermal well-field design using eQuest/DOE2. The room was <U>packed*</U>! I hope more equipment reps in time will recognize the value and potential draw when advanced eQuest topic instruction is offered, even if only for a very narrow sort of system/topic.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If you really would like formal, ‘advanced’ instruction, you might be best-advised to come up with a list of topics you want instruction/guidance on (make your own personal rubric), and share that list either publicly on the lists or directly with those who offer training services – you may be able to then filter out who is able and is willing to teach you some or all of your desired instruction individually, and at what cost. </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">* I would be remiss to not mention Anthony Hardman (frequent contributor to these lists) provided that instruction, and it was excellent.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Charles Land<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B> James Newman; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] Advanced Level Equest Classes</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">All I ever hear about are the beginners classes. If there are any advanced classes out there I would like to know as well.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Does anyone know of any advanced classes that are available for eQuest? </SPAN></P>
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