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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One idea - does the roof surface with the skylight
belong to a plenum, or unconditioned space? Building coincident peak loads
shown on LS-C do not include plenums or unconditioned spaces.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alex Krickx<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 05, 2011
1:40 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> John Aulbach; Jeremy Goth<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] Window
"Curb"</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Alright- I know have
a follow up question:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I ran my model with
3 different spacer types – steel, aluminum and insulated. While I expected the
differences to be small the result I got was 0 difference at all- No difference
in the loads in Report LS-C, and no difference in the Average U-value reported
in LV-D.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>In some research
I’ve done in the past using Therm and Window I’ve found that going from a steel
spacer to an insulated spacer can change the U-value by as much as 0.30 to
0.38. I would say that’s a significant difference and would expect that any
change of that magnitude would impact loads in eQUEST. Unfortunately I saw 0
change.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Any suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Thanks for all the
responses so far – this topic is really interesting!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Alex Krickx<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#262f13" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#262F13'>Alex Krickx, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=gray face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
9.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:gray'>Building Energy Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'>1250 Elko Dr</span></font></st1:Street><font size=1
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'>, <st1:City w:st="on">Sunnyvale</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">94089</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:address><font
size=1 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>(t) 408.541.8124<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alex Krickx<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 05, 2011
9:09 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> John Aulbach; Jeremy Goth<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] Window
"Curb"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Wow….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>John – your question
led me to the right answer (almost). Under Window Properties/Basic Specs I can
edit the Spacer-Type. This edits the Edge-of-Glass conductance. Does anyone
know what the corresponding values are for the different Spacer-Types? And is there
any way to have a user-entered value?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<h5><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>SPACER-TYPE<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h5>
<p class=MsoBodyText><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Takes a code-word that specifies the type of
pane-to-pane spacer air in multi-pane windows. The type of SPACER affects the
edge-of-glass conductance.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=codeword><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>ALUMINUM
Aluminum spacer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=codeword><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>BUTYL/METAL
Butyl/Metal spacer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=codeword><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>INSULATED
Insulated spacer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=codeword><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>STEEL
Steel spacer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=codeword><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>UE-EQ-UC
Fictitious spacer that gives an edge-of-glass conductance equal to the
center-of-glass conductance (i.e., conductance of glass is uniform over its
area).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=codeword><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>John – I think that
in the wizard mode you can choose different frame materials. I’m not sure but
I’m guessing that the frame selection will vary what the frame spacer type is.
Thanks for the question!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Alex Krickx<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#262F13'>Alex Krickx, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><font size=1
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'>1250 Elko Dr</span></font></st1:Street><font size=1
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'>, <st1:City w:st="on">Sunnyvale</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">94089</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:address><font
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>(t) 408.541.8124<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> John Aulbach
[mailto:jra_sac@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 05, 2011
8:59 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Alex Krickx; Jeremy Goth<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] Window
"Curb"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>Hi Alex:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Doesn't the eQuest Windows library allow you to chose glazing with a
certain type of fram (wodd, aluminum, thermal bridge, no thermal bridge)?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>John R. Aulbach, PE,
CEM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Senior Energy
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><font size=3
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color:#1F497D'>1990 E. Grand Avenue</span></font></st1:Street><font
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>,
<st1:City w:st="on">El Segundo</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">90245</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:address><br>
<font color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>W:
888-826-1216, X254| D: 310-765-7295 | F: 310-817-2745<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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style='font-family:Calibri'>www.ptrenergy.com</span></font></a></span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><a
href="mailto:%7C%20jaulbach@ptrenergy.com"><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'>| jaulbach@ptrenergy.com</span></font></a><font
color="#1f497d"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Alex
Krickx <akrickx@seriousmaterials.com><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Jeremy Goth
<jngoth@hotmail.com><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>
"equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
<equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wed, January 5, 2011 8:43:44
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] Window
"Curb"</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Thanks Bruce and
Jeremy,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Well, you’ve answered
my question but I still have the same problem: how to account for edge-of-glass
effects in eQUEST (the edge of glass U-value will be between the frame and COG
values). Back to the drawing board I guess. Thanks for the responses.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Kind regards,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Alex Krickx</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jeremy Goth
[mailto:jngoth@hotmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 05, 2011
8:26 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Alex Krickx<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Equest-users] Window
"Curb"</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Go to your building shell and navigate to the
space/roof/skylight in the component tree. Select the skylight
then go to the spreadsheet tab on the right and find 'Skylight Surface -
Curb - Performance'.<br>
<br>
Jeremy<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:00:19 -0500<br>
From: bruce5@bellnet.ca<br>
To: akrickx@seriousmaterials.com<br>
CC: equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Window "Curb"<br>
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</span></font><font size=4 face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:
Arial'> A curb is used to lift the window up off the roof and
allow the window to be flashed and made water tight. It can be as simple
as a 2x6 or 2x8 wood box. A complicated one would be a fully insulated
wall tunnel through a roof truss system. It should be modelled as an
exterior wall. There should be no edge of glass effect as all the glass
should be inside the opening. There will be an edge/corner effect where
the window frame sits on the curb.<br>
Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.<br>
Abode Engineering<br>
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On 04/01/2011 04:12 PM, Alex Krickx wrote: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi everyone,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Happy New Year! Well, to start off the new year, I have a
question on what the “curb” is in the LV-H report. The placement of the
information, and the fact that it has an area and U-value (much the way the
window frame does) leads me to believe it may be to account for Edge-of-Glass
effects (if you look at Window5 outputs it has COG U-values, frame U-values and
edge-of-glass U-values).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I can’t see anywhere in the detailed edit mode to input curb
information - I looked in both the “Glass Type Properties” and “Window
Properties” Screens.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I found the following info in the DOE2 help file, but it
looks like it only applies to skylights? It also wasn’t clear if it was in fact
for edge of glass, and how to add this information (I’m guessing in the INP file?).
Thanks for any help.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>CURB -CONDUCT</span></font></b><a
name="_Toc140138080"></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Conductance of the skylight curb, excluding the outside air film but
including the inside air film. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Notes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1. You can define curbs only
for exterior windows and skylights, not for interior windows.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2. If the CURB-HEIGHT is zero
no curb calculations will be performed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3. The curb area is <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>not</span></b> subtracted from the associated exterior
wall area.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>4. Each hour, the program adds
the effect of a wind speed-dependent outside air film to the user specified CURB-CONDUCT.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>5. The various elements of a
curb (top, bottom, side, dividers, etc.) may have different conductances. In
this case, CURB-CONDUCT should be an area-weighted average of the different
elements.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>6. The program finds the
overall window conduction by adding curb, frame, edge-of-glass, and
center-of-glass contributions. Thus, all three of these contributions are
included in each of the following report quantities:<br>
"Window
Conduction" in summary reports LS-B, LS-C, LS-E, and LS-F;<br>
"Window
U-Value" and "Window Area" in verification report LV-D and LV-H;<br>
WINDOW hourly report
variable #1, "Window U-Value".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>7. A WINDOW multiplier also
multiplies the curb area.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>8. Window fins and overhangs
shade the curb as well as the glazing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>9. Shading devices, like
blinds and drapes, that you specify using the WINDOW keywords SHADING-SCHEDULE
and CONDUCT-SCHEDULE, affect only the glazed part of the window. They do not
affect the heat conduction through the curb.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>10. If the window has a setback, the curb
is also set back by the same amount.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Kind regards,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Alex Krickx</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#262f13" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#262F13'>Alex Krickx, LEED AP</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=gray face=Arial><span style='font-size:
9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray'>Building Energy Specialist</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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