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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The procedure you’re describing should work fine. In my humble opinion,
it’s pretty clever actually! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>A no-cooling/no-heating system results in a “SUM” system
post-wizards, which is just a placeholder. The only items that might consume
energy in a shell after the HVAC system is out would be internal items:
lights/receptacles/service hot water – you’re eliminating those as well by
unticking all the non-HVAC enduses.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Considering that, you could simplify your procedure a bit I
think: There shouldn’t be a need to specify a ‘closed’ type or any other specific
schedule for the shell.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan
Bowser<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Building Shades<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>So I had a thought on using the DD wizard to introduce a building
for shading purposes only, and I wanted to run it up the flag pole.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>My thought was to model a building shell with an operation schedule
(Wizard Screen 12 of 25) set to Closed and all of its Non-HVAC Enduses (15 of
25) toggled off. Then create a new HVAC System with no cooling source,
heating source or system type, and assign this system to the building shell’s
zones.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>At first glance, the simulation results come out to zero where I
expect them to, but I’m not an ME, so I’m not sure if this shell would have any
other impact other than shading if I were to throw this “dummy” setup in with
the building I want to run the simulation against. When I run a
simulation with a single default shell/hvac system and one with a single
default shell/hvac system along with the dummy setup described above, the
results I’m checking against are pretty close which lends me to believe that
maybe only the dummy’s shading is being taken into account.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Does anyone have any thoughts on this process?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>-- Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span style='font-family:
"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:black'>Jonathan Bowser</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>Senior
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<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>(214)
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan
Bowser<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Building Shades</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I appreciate everyone’s input and help with clarifying and showing
this information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>-- Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span style='font-family:
"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:black'>Jonathan Bowser</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>Senior
Software Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>Beck
Technology </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>1807
Ross Avenue, Suite 500</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>Dallas,
TX 75201 </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>(214)
303-6815</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="http://www.beck-technology.com/">www.beck-technology.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span style='font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nick Caton
[mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> John T. Forester; Jonathan Bowser<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Building Shades</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To round out John’s thorough and detailed answer: Yes,
coming out of the wizards, multiple shells will shade each other if you do
nothing else. The exterior surfaces of one shell will act like static, opaque
building shades with respect to other shells.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The “Shading Surface – Yes/No” property for exterior surfaces
John is pointing out is where you can confirm or edit that behavior (typically,
when creating a 90.1 baseline model). I find it easiest to select any
exterior surface from the 3D view, switch to spreadsheet view, then drag the
horizontal navigation bar all the way to the right to edit the column for this
variable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John T.
Forester<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 03, 2011 2:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Bowser<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Building Shades<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you are in the detailed edit mode and double-click on an
exterior wall or roof and the second properties tab (Daylighting – Shading –
Other) will show you if that surface is a shading surface or not. You can
alternatively review all of your external constructions in the spreadsheet view
(also in detailed edit mode). It is the last column in the spreadsheet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Coming from the wizard, you can go into detailed edit mode and
check to see how the construction in being handled then return to the wizard
without losing anything as long as no changes are made in the detailed edit
mode. If you right click in the field and then choose Item Help, you can
read about how eQuest handles this input variable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob
Hudson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 03, 2011 3:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Bowser<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Building Shades<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>that is my assumption as
well. i haven't truly modeled two separate buildings before for a
project, but i did try a litmus test model once.<br>
what i did was created two shells one north of the other and looked at the
output reports for solar loads on the southern faces. the northern one
did have a smaller load on the southern face, which leads me to believe that
this part of eQuest works just fine. if anyone has an actual project that
they can speak of then that would be a better answer, but for now this is what
i got,<br>
<br>
Rob<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Jonathan Bowser <<a
href="mailto:JonathanBowser@beck-technology.com">JonathanBowser@beck-technology.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Thanks for
the quick response, Rob. For my own sanity, could I have something else
clarified as well?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>I’ve
always been under the assumption that if I model multiple shells in the wizard,
the shading effects of the shells are taken into account when performing the
analysis. Is this actually the case?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Note: I
understand this isn’t the same thing as creating a building shade in the
detailed edit mode since I’m actually introducing more components into the
analysis.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>-- Jon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Rob Hudson [mailto:<a
href="mailto:rdh4176@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdh4176@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 03, 2011 2:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Bowser<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Building Shades</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>You
cannot do this through the wizards, it must be done in the detailed edit mode
after the wizard has been completed. shades are easy to inpliment as long
as you have the information (size and orientation) of the surrounding buildings
readily available.<br>
<br>
hope this helps!<br>
<br>
Rob<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On
Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Jonathan Bowser <<a
href="mailto:JonathanBowser@beck-technology.com" target="_blank">JonathanBowser@beck-technology.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>After searching
through the archive, I’ve learned I can create Building Shades in the detailed
mode in eQUEST. Is it possible to do something similar through one of the
wizards?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Essentially I’d like
a quick, easy way of modeling surrounding buildings so that their shading
effects are taken into account.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>-- Jon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:black'>Jonathan Bowser</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>Senior
Software Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>Beck
Technology </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>1807
Ross Avenue, Suite 500</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>Dallas,
TX 75201 </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"'>(214)
303-6815</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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