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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Personally, I think the crankcase heating
should be allowed in both the proposed and baseline models if it is required
for that system type in your region. That is how I have been modeling it. As a
compromise, you could determine the annual crankcase energy by modeling the
proposed with and without it, then take it out of all proposed and baseline
systems and add the same amount as an identical process load in both the
proposed and baseline models.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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color:windowtext'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>jacob goodman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 04, 2011
11:01 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Equest-users] Crankcase
heating in Appendix G</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am working on a reply to some LEED reviewer
questions regarding crank case heating for a PSZ-AC system type for a LEED
building. The project is registered under 90.1 - 2004. The eQuest system type
"Packages single zone" defaults to 0.5 kW of crank case heating which
I left in both models since my proposed model uses the same type system and crankcase
in necessary in the northwest. <br>
<br>
The reviewer commented that "because Appendix G does not explicitly
address crankcase heating, it should not be modeled in the baseline case".
This seems to imply that if it is included in the installed units it need to be
in the proposed model, but I need to remove it from the baseline causing an
unfair energy difference. <br>
<br>
I didn't find any CIR's, but does anyone have any suggestions? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='color:rgb(102,         102, 102)'>, LEED AP, Green Building
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