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    <font size="+1">    A curb is used to lift the window up off the
      roof and allow the window to be flashed and made water tight.  It
      can be as simple as a 2x6 or 2x8 wood box.  A complicated one
      would be a fully insulated wall tunnel through a roof truss
      system.  It should be modelled as an exterior wall.  There should
      be no edge of glass effect as all the glass should be inside the
      opening.  There will be an edge/corner effect where the window
      frame sits on the curb.<br>
      Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.<br>
      Abode Engineering<br>
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    On 04/01/2011 04:12 PM, Alex Krickx wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Happy New Year! Well, to start off the new
          year, I have a question on what the “curb” is in the LV-H
          report. The placement of the information, and the fact that it
          has an area and U-value (much the way the window frame does)
          leads me to believe it may be to account for Edge-of-Glass
          effects (if you look at Window5 outputs it has COG U-values,
          frame U-values and edge-of-glass U-values).<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I can’t see anywhere in the detailed edit
          mode to input curb information - I looked in both the “Glass
          Type Properties” and “Window Properties” Screens.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I found the following info in the DOE2 help
          file, but it looks like it only applies to skylights? It also
          wasn’t clear if it was in fact for edge of glass, and how to
          add this information (I’m guessing in the INP file?). Thanks
          for any help.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
              font-family: "Times New
              Roman","serif"; background: none repeat
              scroll 0% 0% rgb(178, 180, 191);">CURB</span></b><b><span
              style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New
              Roman","serif";"> -CONDUCT<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" name="_Toc140138080"><o:p></o:p></a></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;
            font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">Conductance
            of the skylight <span style="background: none repeat scroll
              0% 0% rgb(178, 180, 191);">curb</span>, excluding the
            outside air film but including the inside air film. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;
            font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">Notes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Tms
            Rmn","serif";">1.     </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New
            Roman","serif";">You can define <span
              style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(178, 180,
              191);">curbs</span> only for exterior windows and
            skylights, not for interior windows.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Tms
            Rmn","serif";">2.     </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New
            Roman","serif";">If the <span
              style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(178, 180,
              191);">CURB</span>-HEIGHT is zero no <span
              style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(178, 180,
              191);">curb</span> calculations will be performed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Tms
            Rmn","serif";">3.     </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New
            Roman","serif";">The <span
              style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(178, 180,
              191);">curb</span> area is <b>not</b> subtracted from the
            associated exterior wall area.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Tms
            Rmn","serif";">4.     </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New
            Roman","serif";">Each hour, the program adds
            the effect of a wind speed-dependent outside air film to the
            user specified <span style="background: none repeat scroll
              0% 0% rgb(178, 180, 191);">CURB</span>-CONDUCT.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Tms
            Rmn","serif";">5.     </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New
            Roman","serif";">The various elements of a <span
              style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(178, 180,
              191);">curb</span> (top, bottom, side, dividers, etc.) may
            have different conductances. In this case, <span
              style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(178, 180,
              191);">CURB</span>-CONDUCT should be an area-weighted
            average of the different elements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Tms
            Rmn","serif";">6.     </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New
            Roman","serif";">The program finds the
            overall window conduction by adding <span
              style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(178, 180,
              191);">curb</span>, frame, edge-of-glass, and
            center-of-glass contributions. Thus, all three of these
            contributions are included in each of the following report
            quantities:<br>
                      "Window Conduction" in summary reports LS-B, LS-C,
            LS-E, and LS-F;<br>
                      "Window U-Value" and "Window Area" in verification
            report LV-D and LV-H;<br>
                      WINDOW hourly report variable #1, "Window
            U-Value".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Tms
            Rmn","serif";">7.     </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New
            Roman","serif";">A WINDOW multiplier also
            multiplies the <span style="background: none repeat scroll
              0% 0% rgb(178, 180, 191);">curb</span> area.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Tms
            Rmn","serif";">8.     </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New
            Roman","serif";">Window fins and overhangs
            shade the <span style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0%
              rgb(178, 180, 191);">curb</span> as well as the glazing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Tms
            Rmn","serif";">9.     </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New
            Roman","serif";">Shading devices, like blinds
            and drapes, that you specify using the WINDOW keywords
            SHADING-SCHEDULE and CONDUCT-SCHEDULE, affect only the
            glazed part of the window. They do not affect the heat
            conduction through the <span style="background: none repeat
              scroll 0% 0% rgb(178, 180, 191);">curb</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Tms
            Rmn","serif";">10.   </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New
            Roman","serif";">If the window has a setback,
            the <span style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0%
              rgb(178, 180, 191);">curb</span> is also set back by the
            same amount.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;
            font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Alex Krickx<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color:
            rgb(38, 47, 19);">Alex Krickx, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: gray;">Building
            Energy Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: rgb(31,
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">1250 Elko Dr,
            Sunnyvale, CA 94089<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">(t)
            408.541.8124<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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