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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you are having trouble with the one website I listed below then try this one<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://utahashraesolar.tzo.com">http://utahashraesolar.tzo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Bastow<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> Nick Caton; Routh Consulting Engineers; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Solar PV<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Here is some very good website info on some historical data being recorded, on a live continuing basis, by control systems over a 1-3 year period for both PV solar and hot water solar in the Salt Lake City, Utah area.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.atkinsonelectronics.com/solar.asp">http://www.atkinsonelectronics.com/solar.asp</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://utahashraesolar.tzo.com/ord?file:%5ePxNew/Home.px">http://utahashraesolar.tzo.com/ord?file:^PxNew/Home.px</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The 9.9 KW PV system has averaged 51.35 KWH/Day. My understanding to install a system similar to this it would cost around $100,000. The average payback would vary quite a bit depending on how high your power rates are. Some areas would probably recover more KWH per day than this, however, Salt Lake City is a pretty sunny area.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The Utah ASHRAE hot water solar project for the past year has averaged a solar collection of 787.6 BTU per day per square foot of solar collector area.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:blue'>David A. Bastow </span></i></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Rockwell Extra Bold","serif";color:#1F497D'>McClure Engineering, Inc. </span></i></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Batang","serif";color:red'>507 Main Avenue West</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Batang","serif";color:red'>Post Office Box 1404</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Batang","serif";color:red'>Twin Falls, Idaho 83303-1404</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Batang","serif";color:red'>PH. (208) 734-9015</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Batang","serif";color:red'>FAX (208) 734-9016</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Batang","serif";color:red'>Cell (208) 308-1152</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Batang","serif";color:#1F497D'>E-Mail: </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:dbastow@mcclure-engineering.com" title="mailto:dbastow@mcclure-engineering.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Batang","serif"'>dbastow@mcclure-engineering.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Web Site: </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Batang","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.mcclure-engineering.com/" title="http://www.mcclure-engineering.com/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.mcclure-engineering.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Caton<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 27, 2010 7:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> Routh Consulting Engineers; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Solar PV<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Rick,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>My understanding is the PV array installation industry is very regional, and products commonly available and “normal” to one part of the country may not be available in another. I’d advise calling up a local (to the project) vendor/provider of commercial PV arrays and have them send you a package of information regarding what said 100kW system would be composed of. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Inform them you’re modeling the system for feasibility and want any/all technical literature available on the inverter/panels. Suggesting multiple projects/installations may be in the pipeline might crank up the level of assistance offered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If they offer to “model” the system for you with their own software/spreadsheets, it wouldn’t hurt but take anything with a grain of salt. I’ve yet to see a proposal/evaluation from a PV provider with ROI figures anything close to my objective evalutations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>eQuest requires so much in the way of nitty-gritty specifics to correctly model any PV system that I’m inclined to suggest – for a “quick and dirty” evaluation you might be better off seeking a different software package/tool. You might want to ask the [bldg-sim] list for alternatives others have used.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=119 height=37 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CBA673.C9CF0A70" alt="cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB"></span><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#CC9900'>PROJECT ENGINEER<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>Smith & Boucher Engineers</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#CC9900'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>25501 west valley parkway<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>olathe ks 66061<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>direct 913 344.0036<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>fax 913 345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="www.smithboucher.com" title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'> </span></u><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Routh Consulting Engineers<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 26, 2010 12:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Solar PV<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have been tasked with modeling a solar PV system to offset a portion of the energy required by a laboratory. The intended capacity is a peak of 100 kW. eQuest has very few defaults associated with solar PV systems. I am looking for anyone who might have modeled a similar system that could fill me in with some appropriate parameters. My effort is a basic scoping and budgeting type of effort for pass-fail feasibility, so rough general parameters are appropriate. If this gets through the pass-fail test, more detailed parameters will be developed later. Any help anyone could provide would be greatly, greatly appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Rick Routh<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Routh Consulting Engineers, Inc., P.S.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>P.O. Box 3187<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Pasco, WA 99302<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(509) 547-8262<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(509) 542-0650 FAX<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:routhconsultingengineers@charter.net">routhconsultingengineers@charter.net</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>