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--></style></head><body bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The only gray area to me is when the design would only partially provide the lighting – i.e. it isn’t a fair comparison for the proposed design at 0.5 W/ft2 if there is some expectation of receptacle-based fixtures to also be included as supplemental lighting sources.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If the intention is for the proposed design to provide <u>all</u> of the lighting, then I believe it to be fair game. Especially hotel rooms, where the interior designer will have included receptacle-based fixtures if they are intended, it should be relatively clear what is included in the initial fit out.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">With apartments or condos I think you are less likely to have the design intended to cover 100% of the occupied lighting, but if that’s the case for your projects the standard seems to allow it.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Apartments are further complicated since the kitchen, bathroom, and corridor lighting is often completely provided, where the bedroom and living areas may not partially provided. However, the 1.1 W/ft2 (or 0.7 W/ft2 for multifamily) seems to be for a whole apartment including a weighting of all the different spaces in a typical apartment. Maybe the 0.7 W/ft2 is intended to allow for supplemental sources in a living room although this hasn’t been my take on it.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>James Hansen<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 08, 2010 2:43 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Aleka Pappas; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] dwelling unit / residential LPDs</span></font></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Is there a CIR or something that says that residential LPD is unregulated?</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Table G3.1 is pretty specific about residential unit lighting for the proposed model (see below):</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><img width="410" height="337" id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image001.png@01CB96E7.B1E70430"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">As long as the lighting is shown on building plans and permanently wired, you are allowed to use the actual lighting power. I have done 10+ residential projects where we’ve listed 1.1 W / sq ft for the living / bedroom areas for the baseline building, and used the actual density for the proposed model, and been approved. There certainly isn’t anything wrong with doing it the ECM route, but where, specifically, does it say you can’t take credit for any residential unit lighting efficiencies? </span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:25 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] dwelling unit / residential LPDs</span></font></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">That 1.1 W/SF from section 9 doesn't apply to apartment or condo dwelling units. Residential unit LPD is unregulated. We calculate savings for residential lighting as an exceptional calculation using a baseline LPD sited from research (which is kind of all over the place), and calculate savings for installed lighting systems that provide for full illuminance in specific spaces in the residential units. The lighting is scheduled on for 750 hours/ year (from an old LEED CIR). These calcs have been approved in the past for LEED EAc1 under NC 2.2 and 3.0.</span></font></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold">Aleka Pappas</span></font></b></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold">Building Energy Engineer<br>
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</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>On 12/8/2010 7:25 AM, Bishop, Bill wrote: </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Joe,</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">The dwelling units exception in Appendix G applies to “spaces in which lighting systems are connected via receptacles and are not shown or provided for on building plans.” You say you’ve worked hard to reduce lighting energy use, so presumably, you’ve designed the lighting for the spaces and it appears on the plans. Therefore, you are justified in using your actual lighting design for the proposed building model, and the LPD value for the baseline, which should be 1.1 W/ft<sup>2</sup> for living quarters per Table 9.6.1.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Regards,</span></font></p>
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</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Nick Caton<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:16 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Joe Snider; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] dwelling unit / residential LPDs</span></font></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hey Joe,</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">If you’re looking to start somewhere… I know the NEC (NFPA 70) lays out a clear method of estimating dwelling unit lighting loads within Article 220. It starts off seeming high (3W/SF), but there are heavy demand factors that vary with the total calc’d load following within the same article: i.e. first 3,000 @ 100%... 3,000 to 120,000 @ 35% etc…</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">While I’ve yet to fall back on the NEC as an energy modeling resource, I’m unaware of any better direct source for residential lighting loads… I imagine if you dig hard enough, one of the ASHRAE handbooks probably has something along these lines as well that might give you a different sum.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I think ASHRAE Fundamentals does have a clear thing or two to say regarding what percentage of the lighting load should end up in a space vs. a plenum when you are talking about different lamp sources (incandescent vs. CFL…) – something to be aware of if you want to pursue this avenue.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">~Nick</span></font></p>
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223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Joe Snider<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:24 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Equest-users] dwelling unit / residential LPDs</span></font></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I have reviewed the archives and found a few threads on this topic but couldn’t find either good resolution, or a clear enough string to reply to, so I thought I would re-post:</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ASHRAE 90.1 App G doesn’t let you include dwelling units in typical LPD calcs. They say you need to plug in the same number for both proposed and baseline.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">But you can apparently pursue exceptional calcs to justify any cost savings in LEED. But you need to show some kind of analysis as to how you chose a baseline, such as a study or something presumably that shows typical w /sf for residential.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">We have worked very hard to reduce energy use in lighting in a few high-rise residential projects and would like to be able to receive credit for that on our energy model.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Has anyone been through this with USGBC and / or know of a good resource for a baseline w / sf for residential?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">In advance, thank you very much. Great forum.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sincerely,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Joe Snider</span></font></p>
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