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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mohammed,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>First, you should model the building system as it is installed (ignore the ASHRAE baseline here), including envelope. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You then have to do swap in the appropriate ASHRAE Baseline system for the CI area. That's 1 model.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In your proposed model you should model the actual system being installed in the CI portion. That's 2 models.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If the engineers are modifying the Base Building plant or systems in the design then in the 1st Baseline model you will swap in the appropriate ASHRAE appendix G systems for the replaced equipment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You also have to model another building based entirely on ASHRAE 90.1 and Appendix G, using the typical modeling procedures that you would use for a LEED NC project. That's 3 models.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So, you will have 3 eQuest models or you can use parametric runs to eliminate one of the models, but you will have 3 sets of results that you need to submit to the USGBC. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You will then use the more efficient of the 2 Baseline models for your energy comparison. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have not had a CI model reviewed yet, but this has been my interpretation thus far. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It is very time consuming. Maybe going for EAC1.3 Option 1 would save some time?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>Joe Fleming<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333'>E.I., LEED AP BD+C, BEMP<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333'>Mechanical Engineer I<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#006363'>TLC Engineering for Architecture<br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#006363'>Your 2030 Challenge Partner</span></b><b><span style='color:#006363'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>800 Fairway Drive, Suite 250<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Deerfield Beach, FL 33441-1816<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#333333'>phone: </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#555555'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>954-418-9096</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#333333'>fax: </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#555555'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>954-418-9296</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#333333'>direct: </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#555555'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>954-418-4591</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#333333'>website: </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#555555'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.tlc-engineers.com">www.tlc-engineers.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.tlc-engineers.com/"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=700 height=49 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.gif@01CB96BA.5F844AE0" alt="http://www.tlc-engineers.com/images/TLC_Sig_Loc_Block.gif"></span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mohammad Almasri<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'equest-users'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] HVAC selection in LEED CI<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>I am working on LEED CI certification for office building (area 5382sf) . I have a problem to select the baseline HVAC system to calculate the saving for EAC1.3 In the LEED CI. The rating system provide the modeler the ability to choose the simulation method (ECB Section 11 or Performance rating).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>But in case I used the performance rating method , what is the baseline system? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>It will be System 4- PSZ-HP (depending on that the area is below 25,000sf) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif";background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>OR</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>System 8 –VAV/with PFP box depending on that the office is in tower ,and the whole tower area is more than 15,000sf (in this case ,a separate meter will use to calculate the office energy usage) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>Any advice <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>Regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>Mohammad Al-Masri<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>Simulation Engineer <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Eurostile","sans-serif"'>LEED AB BD+C , CAPM<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>