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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hey Joe,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you’re looking to start
somewhere…  I know the NEC (NFPA 70) lays out a clear method of
estimating dwelling unit lighting loads within Article 220.  It starts off
seeming high (3W/SF), but there are heavy demand factors that vary with the
total calc’d load following within the same article: i.e. first 3,000 @ 100%...
3,000 to 120,000 @ 35% etc…<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>While I’ve yet to fall
back on the NEC as an energy modeling resource, I’m unaware of any better
direct source for residential lighting loads… I imagine if you dig hard
enough, one of the ASHRAE handbooks probably has something along these lines as
well that might give you a different sum.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think ASHRAE Fundamentals does
have a clear thing or two to say regarding what percentage of the lighting load
should end up in a space vs. a plenum when you are talking about different lamp
sources (incandescent vs. CFL…) – something to be aware of if you
want to pursue this avenue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#CC9900'>PROJECT ENGINEER<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>Smith &
Boucher Engineers</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#CC9900'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>25501 west valley
parkway<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>olathe ks 66061<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>direct 913
344.0036<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>fax 913
345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="www.smithboucher.com"
title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'> </span></u><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe
Snider<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] dwelling unit / residential LPDs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>I have reviewed the archives and found a few threads on this
topic but couldn’t find either good resolution, or a clear enough string
to reply to, so I thought I would re-post:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>ASHRAE 90.1 App G doesn’t let you include dwelling
units in typical LPD calcs.  They say you need to plug in the same number
for both proposed and baseline.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>But you can apparently pursue exceptional calcs to justify
any cost savings in LEED.  But you need to show some kind of analysis as
to how you chose a baseline, such as a study or something presumably that shows
typical w /sf for residential.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>We have worked very hard to reduce energy use in lighting in
a few high-rise residential projects and would like to be able to receive
credit for that on our energy model.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Has anyone been through this with USGBC and / or know of a
good resource for a baseline w / sf for residential?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>In advance, thank you very much.  Great forum.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Joe Snider<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#948A54'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#948A54'>Joe Snider, AIA, LEED AP</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#948A54'>SEQUIL Systems, Inc</span></b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#948A54'>.</span><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#948A54'>high performance sustainable structures</span></i></b><b><i><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>

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color:#948A54'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#948A54'>1 SE 4th Ave, Suite 205</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#948A54'>Delray Beach, FL 33483<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#948A54'>t: 561.921.0900<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#948A54'>f: 561.208.6090<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#948A54'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#948A54'>www.SEQUIL.com</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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