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color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the links Aaron!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The first link clearly affirms my concerns for the present…
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I suppose it’s positive news that precedent-setting credit
interpretations have been in the works, though it seems wonky to my eyes that
the submitting team would have to pay an extra fee to have the ruling be
precedent-setting… That ‘feature’ seems to draw a line
between “regular” interpretations and “quality”
interpretations that may be referenced for future projects and be made publicly
available… shouldn’t all submitted CIR responses be of a quality
standard that allows for setting precedent? <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hoping things all turn out for the better,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dahlstrom, Aaron
[mailto:ADahlstrom@in-posse.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nick Caton; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> CIRs in LEED<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nick
– <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>About your
question on CIRs in LEED:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I think
LEED 2009 reviewers aren’t bound by any previous CIRs - <a
href="http://www.gbci.org/Certification/Resources/cirs.aspx">http://www.gbci.org/Certification/Resources/cirs.aspx</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>However,
the rumors continue that this could be changing, with “LEED
Interpretations” - <a
href="http://www.leeduser.com/topic/usgbc-offer-precedent-setting-leed-interpretations-along-cirs">http://www.leeduser.com/topic/usgbc-offer-precedent-setting-leed-interpretations-along-cirs</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:150%;text-autospace:none'><b><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:gray'>Aaron Dahlstrom , PE, LEED® AP</span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:150%;text-autospace:none'><b><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:150%;text-autospace:none'><span
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color:gray'>d: 215-282-6753| m: 267-507-5470| In Posse: 215-282-6800| AKF:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'>e: ADahlstrom@in-posse.com | in
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href="http://www.akfgroup.com/">www.akfgroup.com</a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'> </span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick
Caton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> alanc@dwcei.com; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] FW: Solar panels<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><SNIP><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have my own general LEED question for everyone: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I thought a fundamental change in LEED v3 is that they no longer
consider precedent (CIR’s) a justification for anything… Any
project’s LEED review team is fully permitted to completely change their
stances between projects as they deem fit to make their case-by-case re-interpretations.
Is my world-view overly bleak, or is it advisable to caution others to take any
CIR’s with a <s>grain</s> block of salt these days?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#2D4D5E'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan
Crittendon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] FW: Solar panels<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I sent this yesterday but have a couple more things to add:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span><![endif]>how does LEED deal with solar power and does Section
G2.4 ASHRAE 90.1-2007 just mean that you can't take credit for the utility
buying back the extra energy or cant model at all? <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Has there been any CIRs that discuss solar PV
from LEED?<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'>Alan Crittendon, PE, LEED AP</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-family:"Swis721 Blk BT","sans-serif";color:navy'>DW
Collier Engineering, Inc.</span><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Alan Crittendon
[mailto:alanc@dwcei.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Solar panels</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Does
ASHRAE 90.1 allow the use of solar panels when calculating the proposed
bldg? if so how do you model them?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Alan Crittendon, PE, LEED AP</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-family:"Swis721 Blk BT","sans-serif";color:navy'>DW
Collier Engineering, Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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