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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Correct, I did reference Section 11, but the ECB and PRM have the same pumping power requirements, and Section 11 gives the details on how to reach those pumping power requirements.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>FYI you will never get 19.0000000 W/GPM or 22.000000 W/GPM, it is always very close, say 18.87 or 21.95 for example, which is close enough for energy modeling and EAC1 purposes. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I used to use the hunt and peck method which Eddie referenced until I read Section 11. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Tim.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Timothy Howe, MS, LEEDŽ AP</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Mechanical Engineer<br>Stantec<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>61 Commercial Street<br>Rochester NY 14614<br>Ph: (585) 413-5347<br>Fx: (585) 272-1814<br>Cell: (585) 330-8681<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:blue'><a href="http://www.stantec.com"><b><span style='color:#993333;text-decoration:none'>stantec</span></b><span style='color:#003F6E;text-decoration:none'>.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The content of this email is the confidential property of Stantec and should not be copied, modified, retransmitted, or used for any purpose except with Stantec's written authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all copies and notify us immediately.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#008040'>ü</span><span style='color:blue'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#008040'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style='color:blue'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Eddie Corwin [mailto:ecorwin@altanova-energy.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 29, 2010 12:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Omar Katanani; Howe, Timothy; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Pump kW/gpm<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The ASHRAE 90.1 Section that Timothy referred to is meant to be used with the Energy Cost Budget method. This is not he method that LEED uses. To get your pump power equal to 19 W/GPM, I would suggest adjusting the static head of the pump until you get the desired W/GPM from the output file. </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><span class=apple-style-span> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-Eddie<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>__________________________________________________________</span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Omar Katanani <omar@ecoconsulting.net><br><b>To:</b> "Howe, Timothy" <Timothy.Howe@stantec.com>; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Sent:</b> Mon, November 29, 2010 12:09:46 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Pump kW/gpm</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Thanks Timothy!<br><br>I never read section 11 of ASHRAE 90.1...<br><br>Is this method approved for LEED purposes?<br><br>Thanks!<br>Omar<br><br>___________________________<br><br>Omar Katanani<br>Sustainable Design Engineer<br>Email: omar@ecoconsulting.net<br><br><br>EcoConsulting (Lebanon)<br>Nahas Building, 4th floor<br>4 St-Maron Street / Georges Haddad Avenue<br>Postal Code: 2028 5806 SAIFI<br>Beirut, Lebanon<br>Tel: +961 (0) 1 971 266<br>Mobile: +961 (0) 3 045 045<br><br><br>EcoConsulting (UK) Ltd<br>28 Marshalsea Road<br>London, SE1 1HF<br>Tel: +44 (0)207 939 0989<br>Fax: +44 (0)207 939 0981<br>Website: <a href="http://www.ecoconsulting.net" target="_blank">www.ecoconsulting.net</a><br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Howe, Timothy [<a href="mailto:Timothy.Howe@stantec.com" target="_blank">mailto:Timothy.Howe@stantec.com</a>]<br>Sent: Mon 11/29/2010 4:09 PM<br>To: Omar Katanani; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>Subject: RE: Pump kW/gpm<br><br>Enter the following:<br><br>Chilled Water:<br>Head: 75<br>Motor eff: 1<br>Mech eff: .65<br><br>Hot Water:<br>Head: 60<br>Mech eff: 1<br>Motor eff: .60<br><br>Condenser Water:<br>Head: 60<br>Mech eff: 1<br>Motor eff: .60<br><br>Leave everything else blank to autosize.<br><br>Source: ASHRAE 90.1-2007 Section 11 Page 72<br><br><br>Timothy Howe, MS, LEEDŽ AP<br>Mechanical Engineer<br>Stantec<br>61 Commercial Street<br>Rochester NY 14614<br>Ph: (585) 413-5347<br>Fx: (585) 272-1814<br>Cell: (585) 330-8681<br><a href="http://stantec.com" target="_blank">stantec.com</a><<a href="http://www.stantec.com" target="_blank">http://www.stantec.com</a>><br><br>The content of this email is the confidential property of Stantec and should not be copied, modified, retransmitted, or used for any purpose except with Stantec's written authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all copies and notify us immediately.<br><br>ü Please consider the environment before printing this email.<br><br>From: equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] On Behalf Of Omar Katanani<br>Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 6:24 AM<br>To: equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>Subject: [Equest-users] Pump kW/gpm<br><br>Dear all,<br><br>Can someone tell me where I can enter the pump kW/gpm in eQUEST?<br><br>I can see 2 input boxes: 1 for kW and 1 for gpm. If I need to enter 22W/gpm for my baseline chilled water loop pump, how can I do this if I do not have numbers for the wattage and flow?<br><br>Thanks!<br>Omar<br>___________________________<br>Omar Katanani<br>Sustainable Design Engineer<br>Email: omar@ecoconsulting.net<<a href="mailto:omar@ecoconsulting.net" target="_blank">mailto:omar@ecoconsulting.net</a>><br><br>EcoConsulting (Lebanon)<br>Nahas Building, 4th floor<br>4 St-Maron Street / Georges Haddad Avenue<br>Postal Code: 2028 5806 SAIFI<br>Beirut, Lebanon<br>Tel: +961 (0) 1 971 266<br>Mobile: +961 (0) 3 045 045<br><br>EcoConsulting (UK) Ltd<br>28 Marshalsea Road<br>London, SE1 1HF<br>Tel: +44 (0) 207 939 0989<br>Fax: +44 (0) 207 939 0981<br>Website: <a href="http://www.ecoconsulting.net" target="_blank">www.ecoconsulting.net</a><<a href="http://www.ecoconsulting.net/" target="_blank">http://www.ecoconsulting.net/</a>><br><br><br> [cid:image001.jpg@01CB8FA5.16BF9060]<br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>