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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">My LEED-NC v2.2 Reference Guide p188 says “On-Site Renewable Energy and Site-Recovered Energy costs are not included in the Proposed Building Performance (this is a LEED for New Construction exception to ASHRAE Standard 90.1 G2.4); therefore, these systems receive full credit using the PRM”…examples include PV…</span></font></p>
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<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Alan Crittendon<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:07 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Equest-users] FW: Solar panels</span></font></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">I sent this yesterday but have a couple more things to add:</span></font></p>
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<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font>how does LEED deal with solar power and does Section G2.4 ASHRAE 90.1-2007 just mean that you can't take credit for the utility buying back the extra energy or cant model at all? </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font>Has there been any CIRs that discuss solar PV from LEED?<font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"> </span></font></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Arial Narrow"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:navy">Alan Crittendon, PE, LEED AP</span></font><font size="2" color="navy"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy"><br>
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Swis721 Blk BT"><span style="font-family:"Swis721 Blk BT","sans-serif";color:navy">DW Collier Engineering, Inc.</span></font><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue"></span></font></p>
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<b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Alan Crittendon [mailto:<a href="mailto:alanc@dwcei.com">alanc@dwcei.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:28 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> '<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Solar panels</span></font></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Does ASHRAE 90.1 allow the use of solar panels when calculating the proposed bldg? if so how do you model them?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Arial Narrow"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:navy">Alan Crittendon, PE, LEED AP</span></font><font size="2" color="navy"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy"><br>
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Swis721 Blk BT"><span style="font-family:"Swis721 Blk BT","sans-serif";color:navy">DW Collier Engineering, Inc.</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
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