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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thank you, Pasha!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I understood)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I wasn`t write right. I already have one shell with two floors (</span><span lang="EN-US">below & above grade). And I did as You written in first way.)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez [mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> σΑΝΟΜ£ΤΟΧ νΙΘΑΙΜ<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Floor that is situated partly below the grade<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Mikhail,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The anser to your question is No. But you can get there in a couple ways...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Do you have one shell for the underground and one shell for the above ground = 2 shells? If so, you should change this to 1 shell with below & above grade floors. You specifiy this on screen 1 of the shell wizard. When you have one shell
you can go and use the atrium check box and then you will have what you are asking.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OR<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you do have 2 shells from the above question, then you will have to wait until you go into DDedit mode and then you will have to actually delete the internal floor between the two spaces where you want the atrium to be.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pasha<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2010/10/26 σΑΝΟΜ£ΤΟΧ νΙΘΑΙΜ <<a href="mailto:samoletov.mikhail@bt-comfort.ru">samoletov.mikhail@bt-comfort.ru</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">Pasha, thanks. I have found "atrium" checkbox.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">But, now I have new questions about atrium.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">If I have two floors shell (one above and one below grade) and "atrium" checkbox is switched on. Are my floors going to be merged in
one volume and so I`ll fix my problem with floor that is situated partly below the grade?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Sincerely yours,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Mikhail Samoletov</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez [mailto:<a href="mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com" target="_blank">pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 25, 2010 9:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> σΑΝΟΜ£ΤΟΧ νΙΘΑΙΜ <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Floor that is situated partly below the grade<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">When you are in the custom zone screen in the wizard, you can go to the custom zone names button and in there you can select the zone that should act like an "atrium".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The other way to think about modeling atriums is to model them as they are (one floor stacked on top of another) but without an actual floor surface in between. In your model
your zones will be assumed to be equal conditioning requirments so that the floor between the "atrium" spaces is modeled as adiabatic with no thermal exchange between these zones.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Now you have to remember that DOE2 & eQuest is a STATIC modeling program, it cannot accurate model airflow & exchange between zones to give you a true
<u>thermal</u> analysis of the behavvoiur of the spaces with each other. You can merely "represent" the concept of th design in the model, but it won't be accurate for real life.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Does this help?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Pasha<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">2010/10/25 σΑΝΟΜ£ΤΟΧ νΙΘΑΙΜ <<a href="mailto:samoletov.mikhail@bt-comfort.ru" target="_blank">samoletov.mikhail@bt-comfort.ru</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Pasha, Thanks for advice.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">But probably there are any possibility to make “</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">two rows of windows” floors? I mean, to do something look
like atrium (one volume on few floors).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Sincerely yours,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Mikhail Samoletov</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D">Cvetochnaya str, 25"Zh", 196084 St.Petersburg, Russia</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez [mailto:<a href="mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com" target="_blank">pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Grammy<br>
<b>Cc:</b> σΑΝΟΜ£ΤΟΧ νΙΘΑΙΜ; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Floor that is situated partly below the grade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It is not a straight-forward process in eQuest but it can be done. If I were in your shoes however I wouldn't separate these two constructions in eQuest. I would do some pre-processing
of my inputs on my own with a pencil & calculator. My approach would be to calculate the area-weighted average for my U-value of the wall based on the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(U-value underground const * X% of total wall area) + (U-value above-ground const * 1-X% of total wall area) = Model Wall U-value for my simplified input value.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Where you "manipulate" or process your input data outside of eQuest using sound engineering & mathmatically theory you can simplify your input process significantly. The challenge
& balance to remember is that we have to be careful not to over-simplify our input assumptions too much if they may skew our model results in anyway. Just like life, good simulation skills are a balancing act.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Also, my Father speaks Russian and if you need more detailed assistance with your energy modeling & eQuest skills I could have him translate for me from English to Russian if this
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">2010/10/21 Grammy <<a href="mailto:grammy.hkust@gmail.com" target="_blank">grammy.hkust@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Read DOE2.2 Volume, you can build that wall separately, some underground - you can see it in eQuest 3D view, in green color, and some part is
upground. Just cut the wall and input the accurate coordinate in detail mode.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">2010/10/21 σΑΝΟΜ£ΤΟΧ νΙΘΑΙΜ <<a href="mailto:samoletov.mikhail@bt-comfort.ru" target="_blank">samoletov.mikhail@bt-comfort.ru</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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the grade and contains few windows. I have not found how to model this in eQUEST. I have tried to make 2 floors
<a name="12be7b73611a2992_12be2f60afbf9843_12bce0">instead </a>of the lower floor: one is below and other is above the earth surface, but then they have a ceiling between them! It is wrong, I think! I do not need this additional ceiling in the model.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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