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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Hi Brett,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Thanks for such a prompt response.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>In my case total conditioned space is 2,69,920
sqft as per eQuest output report LS-C command.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Out of which almost 36,000 sqft is
non-residential space (corridors, administrative offices, mechanical electrical
spaces-all conditioned) and rest (2,33,920 sqft) is residential space (guest
rooms, dinning space, prayer rooms etc).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Hence residential space is predominant. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>This means I need to select:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Case1: system-4 PSZ-HP for non-residential
space and system-2 PTHP for residential space.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>OR <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Case2: System-4 for all spaces (residential
and non-residential spaces)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>OR<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Case3: System-8 as the residential space is
> 150000 sqft<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>OR <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Case4: System-2 for all spaces, because
residential space is predominant<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Kindly suggest. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Thanks & Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Neeraj Arora</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Project Engineer</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kamal Cogent Energy Pvt Ltd. </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1st floor, Kamal Ratan Chambers,</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>M.I.Road, Opp GPO</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jaipur-302001, Rajasthan (<st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region>)</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ph - 0091-141-2373184 / 85</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a href="neeraj@kamalcogentenergy.com"></a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Brett Fero
[mailto:bfero@robsonwoese.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010
1:59 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Neeraj Arora<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</st1:PersonName>;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users]
District thermal energy</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Neeraja,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Here are some answers;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Question 1: The third footnote below table G3.1.1A says to use
the predominant condition when more than 1 system can be applied.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Question 2: ASHRAE 90.1-2004 Exception G3.1.1a is the source
of the 20,000 sf comment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Neeraj Arora <<a
href="mailto:neeraj@kamalcogentenergy.com">neeraj@kamalcogentenergy.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi friends,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am working
on a project which comes under "Required Treatment of District Thermal
Energy in LEED-NC version 2.2 and LEED for Schools", Version 1.0, May 28,
2008 document.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My project
is a hotel building (80% residential and 20% non-residential). Hence as per my
understanding the system type will be system 2 (residential, as per table
G3.1.1A and G3.1.1B).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I received a
review comment which says that </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'>Per
ASHRAE 90.1-2004, tables G3.1.1A and G3.1.1B, the baseline system for this
project shall be System #2 ? Packaged terminal heat pump. Also, since the
project includes more than 20,000 square feet of non-residential space in
addition to the large residential occupancy, all residential spaces should be
modeled in the Baseline as System Type # 4 (if the total conditioned building
area is less than 150,000 square feet) or System Type # 8 (if the total
conditioned building area exceeds 150,000 square feet). Please include the
requested information on the Template and revise the Tables 1.4, 1.8.1, 1.8.2
and the model as appropriate.</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My questions
are:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The project will come under residential category
or non-residential category or both?? My system selection is correct??</span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Do anyone has the backup or support which
confirms the line “</span></font><i><span style='font-style:italic'>since
the project includes more than 20,000 square feet of non-residential space
in addition to the large residential occupancy,”?</span></i><o:p></o:p></li>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks in advance.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Neeraj Arora</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Project
Engineer</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Kamal Cogent
Energy Pvt Ltd. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>1st floor,
Kamal Ratan Chambers,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>M.I.Road, Opp
GPO</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Jaipur-302001,
Rajasthan (<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region>)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Ph -
0091-141-2373184 / 85</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://neeraj@kamalcogentenergy.com" target="_blank"></a></span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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-- <br>
</span></font><font size=5><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Brett Fero</span></font>,
P.E., CEM, LEED-AP<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=5 color="#990000" face=Georgia><span
style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:#990000;background:white;
font-weight:bold'>RobsonWoese, Inc</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Salina</span></font></st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Meadows</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Office
Park</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>301 Plainfield Road,
Suite 180</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Syracuse</span></font></st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">NY</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">13212</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Ph: 315-445-2650<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Fax: 315-445-0958<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>email: <a href="mailto:bfero@robsonwoese.com" target="_blank">bfero@robsonwoese.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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