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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>No, you are right, there is nothing
listed in the tables for water-source heat pump greater than 135,000 Btu/h. I
think that’s when you go to the water-chilling packages table and start
looking at the minimum efficiencies for water-cooled chillers. That wouldn’t
cover the heating mode, though. Maybe someone else knows for sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel
Deese<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 01, 2010 8:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Water Source Heat Pump Efficiencies<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>Hi
all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>           
I know they always say there’s no such thing as a stupid question, but
I’ve been looking through ASHRAE 90.1  table 6.8.1 as well as I know
how, and I cannot find the required efficiency rating for a water source heat
pump with a capacity greater than 135,000 BTU/hr.  We’re trying to
model Multistack heat pump/chillers, and we’re using the 70-ton model,
which correlates to about 840,000 BTU/hr.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>           
Has anyone ever modeled a water source heat pump larger than 135 MBH, and if
so, which efficiency did you use?  I know I’m absolutely horrible at
where’s waldo, so there’s a good chance I’ve just overlooked
it.  Any help or advice is as always appreciated.  Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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