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From: Nick Caton &lt;ncaton@smithboucher.com&gt;
To: Alex Krickx &lt;akrickx@seriousmaterials.com&gt;,
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Subject: RE: [Equest-users] Modeling Infiltration and Windows
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I=92ve done exactly that in the past for the exactly the same purpose!



The only difference is I believe I always punch in the differences in the m=
etric of ACH.  ASHRAE fundamentals provides some guidance regarding air cha=
nge rates to expect for various classes of construction as a function of ou=
tdoor design temperature, and that was the best I could base my existing co=
nstruction off of from what info I had available.



Come up with a  =93leakiness=94 for both you construction, old and new wind=
ows, and do the weighted average jig =3D).



Kudos on your fancy facade spelling also ;)!



~Nick

cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB



NICK CATON, E.I.T.

PROJECT ENGINEER

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direct 913 344.0036

fax 913 345.0617

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es@lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Alex Krickx
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:05 PM
To: equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] Modeling Infiltration and Windows



Hello all,



I am interested in modeling the energy savings that occurs when windows are=
 replaced with lower-infiltration alternatives. In the wizard mode, the onl=
y place that I see infiltration is under the =93Building Envelope Construct=
ions=94  Screen.



I=92m hoping someone can confirm my methodology:



Can I input a weighted average of window and wall air infiltration here?  I=
f I=92m looking at a building with 20% Window to Wall Ratio, and the window=
s have 0.1 CFM/ft=B2 while the walls have 0.04 CFM/ft=B2can I apply an area=
 weighted average into this box? I would take (20%*0.1+80%*0.04) as the fa=
=E7ade infiltration value.



That way I could use the same formula to determine the area weighted infilt=
ration of the fa=E7ade if better windows were installed.



How do other people model this?



Thanks in advance!



Alex Krickx





Alex Krickx

Building Energy Specialist

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occurs when windows are replaced with lower-infiltration alternatives. In t=
he wizard mode, the only place that I see infiltration is under the =93Buil=
ding Envelope Constructions=94 &nbsp;Screen.
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r infiltration here?&nbsp; If I=92m looking at a building with 20% Window t=
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CFM/ft=B2can I apply an area weighted average
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