Floor to ceiling height 6 inches LESS than the floor to floor height, i.e. no plenum.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Charles Land <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cland@geo-marine.com">cland@geo-marine.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Floor to ceiling height 6 inches? The floor to floor
height is the height of your floor. Then the floor to ceiling height is
the height of your conditioned space. The plenum height is the your floor
to floor minus your floor to ceiling. Not only that if your shortening
your building and not putting in your plenums wouldn’t that decrease your
solar load on the building. True your plenum is unconditioned, but wouldn’t
part of that solar load into the plenum then transfer into your space.
And also if you are making your floor to floor height correct and then not
entering a plenum wouldn’t you then be conditioning a larger volume.</span></p>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carol
Gardner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bishop, Bill<br>
<b>Cc:</b> EQuest<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Equest v3.64 - Plenum and Zones</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Here's my answer: don't create
plenums. Why would you want them unless you are doing a UFAD system and that's
a whole other story, or wholenother or whatever. I just make my floor to floor
height one number and my floor to ceiling height 6 inches, or the width of the
floor slab, less. The DOE help manual, you know, has always suggested that you
don't need to model plenums. It seems like it would save a lot of people a lot
of time, space, and heart burn to just not include them.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Carol</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Bishop, Bill <<a href="mailto:wbishop@pathfinder-ea.com" target="_blank">wbishop@pathfinder-ea.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Mike,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">The eQUEST
wizard will create plenums based on the inputs for systems. For example, if you
use the Schematic Design Wizard and select a VAV system, you will get one
plenum per floor. If you select Packaged Single Zone you will get one plenum
per zone. If you use the Design Development Wizard, you have the option of
selecting System per Floor or System per Zone, which will create the plenums
accordingly.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Bill</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Mike Schaefer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> EQuest<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Equest v3.64 - Plenum and Zones</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">After setting up an
overall buidling footprint and then the zones eQuest creates a large plenum
that encompasses all zones. How can I divide this plenum to correlate
to it's respective zone? When I have mutlipy systems I'm forced
to assign the plenum return to one system instead of the related zones.<br>
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I'd appreciate any input. Thanks,<br>
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</span><b><span>Michael Schaefer -
P.E., LEED<sup><span style="color: green;">®</span></sup> AP</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
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