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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Assuming that the comparison is
being made between the "SA Temp..." run and the "Air
Side..." run;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>try setting the
economizer dry bulb limit down to 55 degrees. Probably not helping at that
high entering temp. More cooling will be required when all of that 65 degree
air comes in, especially when it is humid outside.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Change the
compressor lockout to "NO", you want to maintain a constant leaving
air temperature and mix the air streams to 55.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Try lowering the
lower limit below 45 or doing away with it altogether. You are missing out on
the free cooling you will get when the air is 30 degrees outside. Since you
are always supplying 55 degree air, 30 degree entering air will be mixed to 55
and less cooling will be needed for the interior zones. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> Let me know how it goes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>Joe Fleming<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333'>E.I., LEED
AP BD+C, BEMP<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333'>Mechanical
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Sabesan, Anusha
[mailto:asabesan@noresco.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fleming, Joe; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Amber Welsh<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Air Side Economizer savings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Joe,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So this worked for a multi zone
building that I had. Thanks <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I tried the same one for another
building which has packaged Multizone, Packaged VAV systems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In addition to AIR Side
economizer savings I am also going Night setback, Fixing VAV’s ,SA temp reset
and finally the air side economizer savings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This is my Grid view. I really
appreciate your help. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Amber,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am getting negative heat
savings. I am looking for a very conservative number and that is why I chose 65
and 45. Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=927
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Anusha Sabesan</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>NORESCO</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>(m) (781)534-8296</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>(o) (508)614-1078</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fleming, Joe
[mailto:joe.fleming@tlc-eng.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sabesan, Anusha; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Air Side Economizer savings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ok. Add Econo-Lockout and
set it to yes. Then, when you are in the Parametric Run Definitions
dialogue box, click on grid view and compare to the Baseline items. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>For an accurate savings
comparison, check to make sure Baseline has "NO" compressor lockout
and your run says "YES". Also check to make sure the baseline
OA control is set to "FIXED". (And you can compare other inputs
to make sure you are comparing the two systems the way you want). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Can you email the grid view?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>Joe Fleming<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333'>E.I., LEED
AP BD+C, BEMP<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333'>Mechanical
Engineer I<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#006363'>TLC Engineering for
Architecture<br>
</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#006363'>Your 2030 Challenge
Partner</span><span style='color:#006363'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>800 Fairway
Drive, Suite 250<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Deerfield
Beach, FL 33441-1816<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Sabesan, Anusha
[mailto:asabesan@noresco.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fleming, Joe; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Air Side Economizer savings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Outdoor Air Vent
&Economizer
- OA Control
- OA temperature <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This is the parameter I changed.
And then I also inputted DBT High Limit (65F) and DBT low limit (45F).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Anusha<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sabesan, Anusha; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Air Side Economizer savings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Which keywords did you adjust in
your parametric component?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sabesan,
Anusha<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Air Side Economizer savings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I have been trying to model an existing building for which
one of the parametric run being Air Side economizer savings. Every time (for
different buildings) I do this run I come across negative savings. The
building is located in New York. The system is a multi zone system. I hear that
many people have across this situation. My cooling savings is also minimal. Am
I doing something wrong?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Please advice.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Anusha<o:p></o:p></p>
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