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<DIV>Then in Excel, you could set up a column to keep a running total of hours that are too cold and a column to sum up hours that are too hot.<BR>You could use any criteria you wanted then, including "worst space", anywhere in the building, average, etc.</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Dan Coutin <CoutinD@erdmananthony.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Nick Caton <ncaton@smithboucher.com>; M. Shields <mshields@fstrategies.com>; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wed, July 28, 2010 11:33:31 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Equest-users] Unmet Hours<BR></FONT><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Michael</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">A thorough review of the documentation seems to have been undertaken in 2008. You should search the [Bldg-sim] archive (http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org/) for this thread “Spam:Re: LEED NC Submittal Template, Heating/Cooling Hours Loads Not Met”.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I was very impressed with the thoroughness of Dan Russell’s contribution.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I think his analysis of the rules is correct – but I think that ASHRAE would have better used the “worst space” as I think Carol Gardner has suggested.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">eQuest BEPS report unmet load percentage applies to “fan on” hours (often less than 8760). In eQuest I find the system with the highest fan hours in reports SS-R, total run hours, by changing the “component” to review each system. Then I use the percentage from BEPS with the maximum fan-on-hours to decide whether Appendix G criteria is fulfilled. </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I would be happy to be corrected, but I think that there is no report in eQuest that can identify the building concurrent unmet load hours separated into heating and cooling as required for the LEED template.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Dan Coutin</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #4f6228">[For continuity, I’m attaching Michael’s most recent response to Dakota’s followup… just some convulted copy/pasting to keep the discussion moving in one direction]</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Michael,</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I’d like to caution you against a fairly common misinterpretation. 90.1 is unfortunately not crystal clear, but the general consensus on these lists (including reviewer input) is that 90.1 is citing unmet hours as “coincidental” unmet hours. The long and short of it is, you aren’t supposed to literally sum up the unmet heating and cooling hours of each zone to come up with total unmet hours, even though it may seem intuitive. If you do, you’re likely unnecessarily penalizing one or both models and putting extra work on yourself. See the message copied below (scroll to the bottom and read-on-up) for a more in-depth explanation/discussion of a “best practice” approach with eQuest – there’s more where that came from in the archives also.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>M. Shields<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] Unmet Hours</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Nick,</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">My baseline model currently has 0 unmet hours, and my proposed has around 100 total if I add up all of the unmet hours in all zones. From my interpretation (and I believe you’re confirming it) this does not qualify. If I read 90.1 correctly then there is no weighting or averaging, it’s just a total unmet hours anywhere in the building (ie zone 1 hours +zone 2 hours +zone 3 hours…. Etc). Does anyone else disagree with this interpretation?</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks,</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'"> Dakota Kelley [mailto:dakotak@teliospc.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Nick Caton; M. Shields; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Equest-users] Unmet Hours</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I put one small FYI at the end of Nick’s #3 below, in all caps for the sake of the plain text archives…</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'"> Nick Caton [mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:33 PM<BR><B>To:</B> M. Shields; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] Unmet Hours</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Michael, </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">90.1’s passage (G3.1.2.2) regarding unmet hours requirements is something I had to re-read many times to get my head fully wrapped around it… Here’s my current interpretation:</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><SPAN>1.<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">You need to have 300 or fewer hours in each model.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><SPAN>2.<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">The proposed is not allowed to perform worse than the baseline by more than 50 unmet hours. If it does you have to make the baseline “underperform” so they’re within 50 of each other. </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="COLOR: #984806"><SPAN>3.<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">The baseline is permitted to perform worse than the proposed (by any degree) as long as it’s still 300 or fewer unmet hours. </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #984806">THIS IS MY INTERPRETATION AS WELL, BUT IT IS WORTH MENTIONING THAT MORE THAN ONE LEED REVIEWER HAS INDICATED THE OPPOSITE. FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS TOLD I WAS OUT OF COMPLIANCE WHEN THE BASELINE HAD 65 UNMET COOLING HOURS AND THE PROPOSED HAD 5 UNMET COOLING HOURS. DO YOU ARGUE, OR JUST REDUCE THE BASELINE HOURS? IT PENALIZES THE BASELINE TO REDUCE THOSE HOURS, SO I WENT AHEAD AND DID WHAT I WAS TOLD. </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">You haven’t said whether you’re talking about your baseline or proposed model, but the above points should guide you as to whether you need to make an adjustment. Refer to G3.1.2.2 for review and further info.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">~Nick</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>M. Shields<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Equest-users] Unmet Hours</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I am working on filing out the LEED paperwork for submittal and for unmet hours I am wondering does the reviewer want the total unmet load hours for the building, or an average per zone? My building has about 100 zones, most of which have 0 unmet hours, but I have one zone which has significant (more than 50) unmet hours. Does this mean my model exceeds the requirement that the difference between the baseline and the proposed be less than 50 hours?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks for any advice.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Michael Shields</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Nick Caton<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:53 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Andrew T McMurray; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] (no subject)</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">There’s much discussion on this in the archives, but basically the difference is that BEPS/BEPU is reporting % of <U>coincidental</U> unmet hours (when multiplied by the annual hours fans on in report SS-E), as we intuitively think of it, whereas the SS-R reports are reporting unmet hours for each zone without regard to coincidental unmet hours. Summing the SS-R reports may be the more intuitive approach, but you’ll end up with a conceptually different figure that can often be higher than the figure found through BEPS/SS-R.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Note there’s a degree of rounding involved when you only get a percentage to so many decimal places.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">As an example, if you had an imaginary model with only two zones which were unmet all year long, BEPS would report 100% hours outside throttling range, whereas adding up the SS-R report hours might lead you to believe there are as many as 8,760*2 = 17,520 hours per year.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Therein lies the answer to why the numbers don’t sync up after adding up the SS-R figures. For now, multiplying the BEPS figure by the annual hours fans on is the best approach imho for documenting compliance with the baseline/proposed unmet hours requirements.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">It’s been said the next released version of eQuest will present this information more clearly in the BEPS/BEPU reports.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">~Nick</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Andrew T McMurray<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:17 PM<BR><B>To:</B> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Equest-users] (no subject)</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">Hello Everyone,</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">I am trying to finalize a building model for a LEED submission but am having difficulty getting the BEPS report "percent of hours any system zone outside of throttling range" to match the SS-R reports "zone under heated" and "zone under cooled" hours. This was a complaint from the LEED reviewer.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">The building has three systems and all spaces are conditioned. The BEPS report lists hours outside of throttling range at 2% (175hrs), but the SS-R report lists under heated and cooled hours of 280 (3.2%). </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">I consider myself fairly familiar with equest but am unable to get these two numbers to match. Has anyone run into this problem in the past or have any ideas of where I should be focusing my attention?</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">Many Thanks,</SPAN></P>
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