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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I also do not think that modifying the occupancy schedule is a
proper way to account for DCV savings. Doing that, one modifies the loads due
to people.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And the Baseline and Proposed should always have the same
occupancy schedules.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Demba NDIAYE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Riemer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ron lamarre; 'Carol Gardner'; equest-users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Demand Controlled Ventilation and EA Credit
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ron and Carol,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Would you please clarify by referencing EQUEST/DOE-2.2 commands?
Are you modeling DCV by changing the space occupancy schedule (SPACE: PEOPLE-SCHEDULE)?
What are your outside air inputs? Is this the dummy space in a DOAS
system? Are you making other creative changes like putting all of your occupant
heat gain in as a process load? I am gasping to understand the validity
of changing the people schedule.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have always valid DCV modeling is best done in eQUEST/DOE-2.2
by changing the system minimum outside air schedule (SYSTEM: MIN-AIR-SCH).
Even just changing the system minimum outside air control method
(SYSTEM: MIN-OA-METHOD) seems iffy because I think the approach that ignores
the floor area component of Std 62.1. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paul Riemer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Dunham<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bishop,
Bill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> James Hansen; ron lamarre; equest-users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Demand Controlled Ventilation and EA Credit
1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Ron,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I’m with James on this one. I can see changing lighting or
equipment schedules to capture ECMs but changing occupancy schedules makes no
sense unless you’re modeling telecommuting or 4-day work week. You can capture
DCV savings in eQUEST by selecting DCV as the Minimum OA Control Method for the
system and having an occupancy schedule with a varying percentage (not 100%)
during occupied hours. Using the same occupancy schedule, the model with DCV
will heat/cool less OA air and show savings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James
Hansen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ron lamarre; equest-users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Demand Controlled Ventilation and EA Credit
1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:red'>“</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>For the record, the occupancy schedule refers to the people present
within the space. For instance, a space within the baseline
(not required by ASHRAE to have DCV) would have the max number of
occupants for the entire occupied-mode schedule; however, the proposed would
have the max number of people for only as many hours
as submitted in the project narrative for FTE usage of the space, and
a minimum number of people (or no one) for the remaining occupied-mode
time. Thus we create an occupancy (people) schedule for the space.
During the unoccupied mode the fans would cycle as required with no
people, no lighting (automatic shut off), acting on the heating &
cooling loads. We would not install DCV if the occupant loads didn't
change during the occupied mode.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Ron,
please educate me if I’m reading your email wrong, but are you saying that your
occupancy schedule in the proposed design does not match the baseline design?
This is strictly prohibited in App G I thought… You can change schedules to take
advantage of non-standard ECMs like DCV, and automatic lighting reductions for
the use of occupancy sensors (in rooms NOT already required to have them by
code). But having a conference room 100% occupied from 7am-6pm in the baseline
model and only 100% occupied from 9am-noon in the proposed model is not a valid
way to demonstrate savings from DCV, since there will be energy savings related
to the people latent/sensible production that has nothing to do with DCV. Don’t
you have to create a minimum outside air schedule to demonstrate DCV savings?
If you have received credit for simply reducing the Occupancy Schedule in the
proposed model, that is very interesting…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ron lamarre
[mailto:lamarre_arch@yahoo.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> James Hansen; equest-users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Demand Controlled Ventilation and EA Credit
1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi
James:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>For
the record, the occupancy schedule refers to the people present within the
space. For instance, a space within the baseline (not required
by ASHRAE to have DCV) would have the max number of occupants for the
entire occupied-mode schedule; however, the proposed would have the max number
of people for only as many hours as submitted in the project
narrative for FTE usage of the space, and a minimum number of people (or no
one) for the remaining occupied-mode time. Thus we create an occupancy
(people) schedule for the space. During the unoccupied mode the fans
would cycle as required with no people, no lighting (automatic shut
off), acting on the heating & cooling loads. We would
not install DCV if the occupant loads didn't change during the occupied
mode.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We
also use general lighting schedules that take advantage of installed occupancy
sensors, and process load schedules that take advantage of Energy Star
computers and monitiors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The
HVAC engineer decides the minimum design rate for each space to work (heating
& cooling) if fully occupied with all the lights, process loads, and people
during the occupied mode. This is normally at or above the 62.1 and/or
other code-required minimums (never below due to the LEED pre-requisite).
Sharing the reduction schedules placed into eQuest with a
template-narrative to support the reductions (based on ASHRAE 90.1, Energy
Star, etc... %-reductions) has been accepted by LEED.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We
utilize an integrated design team method, where the engineers and
I review the models that I construct. We also get peer
reviews when we think it's necessary and/or when LEED throws us a
curve. We pay for our peer reviews. I'm confident that anything
we've submitted does not prove inconsistency within the review
of EAc1.<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Lamarre, AIA, NCARB</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Architect
- <strong><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>LEED AP BD+C</span></strong></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Design
+ Energy Modeling + LEED Administration</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> James Hansen
<JHANSEN@ghtltd.com><br>
<b>To:</b> ron lamarre <lamarre_arch@yahoo.com>; Karen Walkerman
<kwalkerman@gmail.com>; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue, July 27, 2010 12:57:21 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Demand Controlled Ventilation and EA Credit
1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>“Each model that I've done for LEED utilizes the same ventilation
rates between the proposed and design; whether it was ASHRAE 62.1 or IMC 2003;
however, the occupancy schedules changed in spaces where DCV was installed.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ron, that’s an interesting statement in itself – modifying
occupancy schedules has an impact on the mechanical cooling (not just the
cooling associated with reduced ventilation air), which isn’t really
fair. Was that approved by GBCI? If so, I guess it’s further proof
that there is still a lot of inconsistency in the review of EAc1. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Karen, I think your letter does a good job of requesting an
official “ruling” from the USGBC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:teal'>GHT Limited<br>
</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>James Hansen, PE, LEED AP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Karen Walkerman
<kwalkerman@gmail.com><br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users <equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue, July 27, 2010 12:10:27 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Demand Controlled Ventilation and EA Credit 1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'>All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>below is a draft letter to the EA Credit 1 TAG chair. I
welcome any edits, or critiques, and if anyone would like to be a co-signer of
the letter, please let me know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'>--<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>Karen<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>It has come to our attention from a posting on the eQuest
list-serve that a fellow energy-modeling professional has been asked to model
proposed design and baseline design ventilation rates differently where the proposed
design model utilizes demand controlled ventilation. We have searched the
ASHRAE 90.1 documentation as well as the LEED reference documentation and
consistently find the requirement that baseline ventilation rates be modeled
the same as the proposed design, and that credit can be taken for demand
controlled ventilation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>We understand that large energy savings can be gained from
demand controlled ventilation and that in certain cases, 'gaming' of the system
could result in abnormally high ventilation rates for the baseline design,
while the DCV system keeps ventilation rates low in the proposed design,
however, our main concern is that energy modelers are being made aware of
changes to guidelines during the design review process. At this stage, the
energy modeler has already completed a significant amount of work in preparing
the proposed and baseline design energy models, and all associated
documentation. Changing the baseline design ventilation rates requires
re-modeling of the building and increases the likelihood that the project will
have to challenge a 'rejected' result if the LEED reviewer is not satisfied
with the energy modeler's response and modeling changes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>We feel that it may be time to develop modeling guidelines
for demand controlled ventilation, and that these guidelines should be
developed, released, and required in a similar fashion to the district energy
guidelines published by LEED for NC 2.2 Furthermore, we feel that any
changes made to EA Credit 1 energy modeling guidelines should be made with
adequate notice to the energy modeling community.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>Thank you for your consideration on this issue,<o:p></o:p></p>
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