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<DIV>I will practice this weekend. I am sure that I will make great progress.</DIV>
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<DIV>Best regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>James<BR>--- On <B>Thu, 7/22/10, Martz, Amanda <I><amartz@klingstubbins.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Martz, Amanda <amartz@klingstubbins.com><BR>Subject: RE: [Equest-users] Simulation with Baseline model,Thanks for Your Advice. I am unable to figure it out.<BR>To: "tim" <tim.jgrier@fuse.net>, "Demba Ndiaye" <Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com>, "Guoguang Le" <jamesle_tx@yahoo.com>, equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR>Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 8:42 AM<BR><BR>
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<P class=yiv1885720207MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The problem is that the difference between the baseline and the proposed isn’t just a difference in system types, there are other factors involved such as minimum flow rates, pump power, fan power, etc. Read appendix G, all of those criteria need to be implemented in the baseline. The proposed model should match your own design. I don’t think all of these changes could be done within the same model.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv1885720207MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>tim<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:40 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'Demba Ndiaye'; 'Guoguang Le'; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Equest-users] Simulation with Baseline model,Thanks for Your Advice. I am unable to figure it out.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv1885720207MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Yes, and my experiment didn’t work by the way – must be why no comments were made. I thought it was working but alas the GSHP plant equipment button is greyed after going back into the wizard. so I suppose there is no way to compare LEED baseline with proposed in one eQuest model?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv1885720207MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It did “appear” to work. The geothermal had a higher electric usage and way lower gas consumption – this made sense to me since the geothermal would have pumps & more intricate controls and the PSZ would eat up the gas in winter.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv1885720207MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Anyway, now I am planning to have 2 model files and use the EEM wizard to rename the runs appropriately. I will then have to generate my own comparison reports if I want them I suppose. Had to find percent improvement on my own anyway. Attached is a simple spreadsheet showing the comparison. There may be a template for this, I’m just wandering through the energy simulation forest for the first time so any thoughts/feedback would be appreciated.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv1885720207MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Maybe I need some training…</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv1885720207MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Demba Ndiaye<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:17 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Guoguang Le; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Equest-users] Simulation with Baseline model, Thanks for Your Advice. I am unable to figure it out.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv1885720207MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">eQuest uses “Baseline” to refer to your base model, with EEMs in mind. The word has actually nothing to do with either 90.1 or T24. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv1885720207MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I appreciate your time very much! Thanks Lot !!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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