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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To simulate heat recovery from multiple
air handler exhaust streams to one air handler outside air stream, you could
try to account for it by modeling heat recovery in one unit only and increasing
the heat exchanger effectiveness. <span class=GramE>eQUEST</span> allows you to
enter a number greater than 1.0 for ERV-SENSIBLE-EFF, but when I tried it the
program gave me a caution message and changed it to 0.9. You will have to do a
hand/spreadsheet calculation to determine what the actual effectiveness might
be. The 2008 ASHRAE Handbook – HVAC Systems and Equipment, Chapter 25 is
one resource.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martz, Amanda<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 16, 2010 8:13
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Brian Fountain;
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] Heat
Recovery / Run around coil</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>I specified the max airflow the unit
is designed for, but it might not see all of this exhaust air at any given
point. I would rather it size itself based on what exhaust it calculates.
It’s hard to tell what it’s doing with the information it has and
what I give it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>Also, I’m not sure what to do
with the pump power for the glycol loop. I don’t have the glycol loop included
in the model as a circulation loop because its MBH varies depending on time of
year, but I need to include that power somewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Brian Fountain [mailto:bfountain@greensim.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:51
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Martz, Amanda<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] Heat
Recovery / Run around coil</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>If I am not mistaken, in the ERV definition you can
specify the OA and EA air flows. They default to the OA being delivered
but you can alter the EA value for this case as appropriate.<br>
<br>
Martz, Amanda wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"><u1:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><u1:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><u1:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="Street"><u1:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="address"></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType>I
have 4 air handling units and all of their air is being exhausted to the same
exhaust manifold. I have a heat recovery glycol run around coil in that exhaust
stream of air, and the glycol is returning that heat to only one of the four
air handling units.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is there any way to model this? I have heat recovery
turned on for just the one unit that the heat is being returned to, but this
doesn’t account for the other 3 units’ exhaust air. Thanks for all
of your help!<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.0pt'><font size=1 color=black
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