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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Carol I think I can fill in a response:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>More often than not, big complicated energy modeling projects
typically result in another individual doing the HVAC design. When that
other person regularly uses HAP and/or Trace to run sizing loads, we ultimately
have to butt heads to be sure eQuest is arriving at similar answers, and it usually
is off in one zone or another by a big factor. Quirks like unexpectedly
huge people densities or particular OA requirements get missed by eQuest’s
occupancy libraries.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The concept of being able to get to a certain point of the
energy model, avoiding inputting any system sizing parameters (Auto-size CFM’s,
capacities, etc), and then import such information from another’s work
(rather than doing it by hand from cryptic output reports), is really appealing
as that’s a part of the job that’s both un-fun and drawn out.
It does encourage using the model to tweak the HVAC design process to a more
intimate degree than we might otherwise, once the two sets of results are
calibrated to each other, which I think is great.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Envisioning this, I think it would manifest as an option in
Trace or HAP (or similar loads program) to create a text file (*.inp)
containing the variables you’d want to import located under the
respective zones/systems. There would have to be some graphic/visual
means of telling Trace/HAP the cryptic zone/system names generated by eQuest to
make this a time-efficient feature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To Matthew’s question, I’m afraid this concept will
be remaining in perpetual la-la-land unless Trane or Carrier decide/realize
they might get a lot more business by assigning this interoperability feature to
their respective software developers. As they both perceive their
software packages as “competitors,” to eQuest, I don’t see it
happening anytime soon, but I’ve been wrong before!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have heard scattered reports (and even seen a few screenshots)
of people in the “real world” managing to get GBS/Revit to
interface via export into eQuest – but my personal attempts (3 times)
have all failed along the way… it seems rooted to model manipulations
that Revit MEP cannot do, which Architectural can (and we don’t have the
budget for) that are required for a clean export. To my limited
understanding, with this process you’re getting geometries (polygons,
surfaces) defined, and possibly spaces/zones and constructions, but beyond that
you’re left to do everything else without the wizards.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>PS: If any man wants to contribute woman-hours (or vice versa, I
won’t judge!) to making that eQuest-wiki concept happen, then make it
known =). By contributing, I’m explicitly suggesting being willing
to write up one or more articles, mini-guides, or how-to’s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carol
Gardner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew W. Higgins<br>
<b>Cc:</b> eQuest user forum<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] eQuest Wiki & Other Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Sorry, Matthew, but I can't
resist this: if they were "woman-hours" at stake there would be fewer
and the outcome better. You left yourself wide open for that one!<br>
<br>
Related to your second paragraph, can you give me an example of why you would
want to go from eQUEST to XML/Trace? I am stumped as to why you want to do such
a thing.<br>
<br>
Carol<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Matthew W. Higgins <<a
href="mailto:MWHiggins@bpce.com">MWHiggins@bpce.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Seems
like a lot of the traffic lately (past month or so) could be lightened by the
eQuest Wiki that was mentioned. Anything come of that? Of course, keeping
respectful of the fact that these are man-hours at stake to create it all.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Also,
unrelated, I’m aware of the workflow using GreenBuilding Studio to go
from Revit to eQuest and the ability to bring XML into Trace, but is there a
workflow to go from eQuest BDL to Trace or back out to an XML, file then into
Trace? Seems like GBS could go from eQuest to XML/Trace, primarily for time
savings when creating geometries.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thoughts?
Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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