Maybe I was too vague in my reply.<div><br></div><div>I, too, was hoping for some insight into this particular issue.</div><div><br></div><div>While I do believe this to be a software (developer) oversight, I also believe that any offered solution(s) to such a 'problem' could be handled with slightly more dignity; perhaps even some humility!</div>
<div><br></div><div>It is more likely that 'this' is a software issue more than anything else. Hopefully this, and many other issues, will have been addressed in '3.6.4'!</div><div><br></div><div>It makes absolutely no sense to me to assign a system to 'unconditioned space' that is being used to 'condition', condition space. Since every 'space', or zone requires the assignment of a specific mechanical system, then wouldn't it be likely [as in the 'real world' vs. our 'virtual' one, be equipped with 'NO" system since it is 'NOT' conditioned, versus an 'operable' system that supplies conditioning to a space that requires such? </div>
<div><br></div><div>While it agreed that all zone 'must belong to a system', I'm not convinced that your [emphatic] solution employs the ideal method for addressing such an issue. It seems to me that you're placing her back to the same point in which she came to discover such a unique condition. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Looking forward to a legitimate response!</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely--</div><div>John<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Dakota Kelley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dakotak@teliospc.com">dakotak@teliospc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If I’m following your
description, you must be specifying the unconditioned zone in Shell Wizard/Screen
2/Zone Characteristics button. Then you’re obviously specifying system-per-floor
in the HVAC wizard. This sounds like it should work, but what is happening is Shell
Wizard/Screen 14 settings are trumping Shell Wizard/Screen 2. There are two
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<p><span style="color:#1F497D"><span>1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
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zones to unconditioned in the detailed interface.</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D">Create a new zone
group in Shell Wizard/Screen 14. Assign the unconditioned zones to this group,
and then make sure the “Conditioned” check box is <i>not</i> checked. Assign
the group to whatever system makes sense and move on (making sure that at least
one conditioned zone group is also assigned to that system). All zones have to
belong to a system, but if they’re unconditioned their parent system is
irrelevant. This method is only slightly longer than the one above, but it
lets you stay in the wizard.</span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] eQUEST unconditioned spaces</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What is the best way to handle unconditioned spaces in
eQUEST? Right now, I am zoning it separate and calling it unconditioned
in the WIZARD. Then, when I assign systems, I am putting the
unconditioned zone in a system with a conditioned space and saying “ one system
per floor”. Is this the proper way to do it?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have tried just leaving the zone as unconditioned and on
its own, but then when I do the “permit submittal” calculation it still asks
for the fan flow and cooling capacity for that zone.</p>
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