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color:#1F497D'>Ana,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>You are correct. It is not explicitly stated in 90.1, but a
floor with conditioned space is a floor regardless of whether it is above or
below grade. “Basement” is too vague of a term in this context. To give you an
example, I had a project that was five floors above grade and one floor below
grade. The below grade floor was 50% fully-conditioned space (labeled “basement”
storage on the plans) and 50% parking garage. The building area was about
135,000 SQFT gross (with the garage), 120,000 SQFT without the garage, and
97,000 SQFT if the entire below grade floor was excluded. So, the area
component was irrelevant; baseline selection came down to System 6 if I counted
it as five floors and System 8 if I counted the below grade floor. I counted
the below grade floor and went with System 8, and the LEED reviewer drove to my
office and gave me a high five, a low five, and an on-the-side five. Then she
made me clarify how I calculated my fan power allowance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ana N.
[mailto:ananeddav@hotmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> demba.ndiaye@setty.com; Dakota Kelley;
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED Baseline system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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The ASHRAE definition of "story" led me think that
the basement should not be included in the total number of floors. However,
Appendix G indicates that for systems 5,6,7 and 8 each floor shell be modeled
with a separate system. That being said, if i had four floors plus basement , I
would model 5 systems since my basement is conditioned. This
approach would be more in line with what Dakota said. Thank you both for your
suggestions. Obviously, Appendix G is not clear about this.<br>
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From: Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com<br>
To: dakotak@teliospc.com; ananeddav@hotmail.com;
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:34:48 -0400<br>
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] LEED Baseline system<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Read “floor” as “story” and you can see the definition of that
term in the Standard (Section 3). Basement is specifically excluded. So in the
present case, you fall in System 3 or 4. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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color:#1F497D'>_____________</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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color:#1F497D'>Demba NDIAYE</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dakota
Kelley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ana N.; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED Baseline system</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If it is conditioned space (heated, cooled, or both), a basement
floor is still a floor as far as system selection is concerned. If it is
neither heated nor cooled, it might be acceptable to exclude it, but I admit I
have never encountered an entirely unconditioned basement on a LEED project
before.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 12, 2010 5:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] LEED Baseline system</span><span
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Hi All,<br>
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My understanding is that the basement should not be counted toward the total
number of floors when selecting the baseline HVAC system type (Table
G3.1.1A). My building has three stories plus basement and total conditioned
floor area of 20,600 sf ( sf does not include attic which is about 5,000sf). I
would select PSZ-AC for hybrid or PSZ-HP for electric heat. Am I correct?<br>
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Any comments are appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thank you.<br>
<br>
Ana<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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