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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">I have a question, partly
due to my ramble a few weeks ago on the wizards and how I use them.
After a long series of adjustments I shutdown and re-initialize the </font>program.
My question is does eQuest take the INP file and create a new BDL file
on opening the project? I'm referring to the initial run (compile)
eQuest does on opening, is it creating a new BDL file?<br>
To second what everyone else is saying, certain errors are easier fixed
in the INP file, like these ones. The main thing to remember is to
always have a backup copy. The most important one is your last one
before you leave the wizards. Then go for it, if you crash it, copy
your copy and try and other tack.<br>
Bruce<br>
Abode Eng.<br>
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On 09/07/2010 02:48 PM, Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr. wrote:
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one thing you can do is make changes to the .pd2 and .inp files using
notepad once you've figured out what you need to change. for example,
if your <span>EL3 East Perim Plnm (G.E6) was referenced but is no
longer defined, you have a plenum space that belonged to a space that
changed names during a zoning change.</span> look at the .inp file
line number, find out which space the <span>EL3 East Perim Plnm (G.E6)
is supposed to correlate to and change the name accordingly - in the
.inp file. once these references are </span>corrected the simulation
should run fine. <br>
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you're probably looking at changing <span>EL3 East Perim Plnm (G.E6)
to whatever the new space name is (checking what comes before line
14898 can put you in the right direction on finding the correct name to
change to.<br>
<br>
and when you have a working simulation always backup your .pd2 (wizard
mode) and/or .inp (detailed mode) files even if you just copy them in
the same directory.<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR****************************************************************************************</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR*****EL3 East Perim Plnm
(G.E6) was referenced on line 14898 but never</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span><span> </span>defined.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR****************************************************************************************</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR*****EL3 West Perim Spc
(G.W4) was referenced on line 15237 but never</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span><span> </span>defined.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR****************************************************************************************</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR*****EL3 WNW Perim Plnm
(G.WNW7) was referenced on line 15377 but never</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span><span> </span>defined.</span></p>
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On 7/9/10 11:23 AM, Carol Gardner wrote:
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type="cite">Hmm. Well I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are
asking, but here are my recommendations. Finish what you need to do in
DDWizard and get out of it. I wouldn't even try to make the changes you
are trying to make while in the Wizard.<br>
<br>
Don't fear DD edit. You can do things in it just as easily as in the
Wizard, and if you get stuck we'll help. Like I said earlier, the
easiest way to see what and where the error is, is to open up the .bdl
and .inp files. That might be even scarier to you than DD edit, and
that's okay, you should be scared. You can mess up in a hurry but with
careful work you won't. <br>
<br>
Take a deep breath and get out of the Wizard!!<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Carol<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Paul
Brooks <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>Carol, Dave, and Mtt:</div>
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<div>Thank you for the replies. I did look in the BDL file, but
did not realize I had to update the inp.</div>
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<div>That being said, am I safe in assuming that, if I stay in
the
DDwizard (not quite ready to leave yet), every time i add information
and compile, I will have the same error. The root cause of the error
is in the interface, correct? If that is the case, then the reality is
it just cannot be fixed unless i change the inp file after compiling?</div>
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<div>Thank you again!</div>
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<hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
Carol Gardner <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Brooks
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> eQuest user
forum <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Fri, July 9,
2010 1:32:58 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Equest-users] Strange errors in file- HELP!<br>
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Hi Paul,<br>
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Here's my strategy when this happens to me. I open the <b>.inp</b>
file and the <b>.bd</b>l file in Word. I then use the Edit, Find
feature and search on ERROR in the <b>.bdl</b> file. When I find the
line that the error is occurring in I then fix it in the <b>.inp</b>
file. Repeat until all errors gone. You probably have an existing space
that shared an interior wall with your now deleted space and is trying
to reference it using" NEXT-TO". Be sure to fix the error in the <b>.inp</b>
file not the .bdl file, which I have done a few times. This is one
example of why it is good to familiarize yourself with the Building
Descriptive Language (BDL): you can make these sorts of fixes much
easier in your input deck using than trying to figure it out in DD
edit. Just be sure not to delete any delimiters (..) <br>
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Let me know how you do..<br>
<br>
Carol<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Paul
Brooks <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:equestpaul@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">equestpaul@yahoo.com</a>></span>
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<div>I am modeling an addition to an existing building. I
originally did the shell/zoning using just the original building. I
then, after saving a back up copy of the base building, i went back to
the shell and zone drawing screens in the DD wizard and expanded the
shell to account for the addition, and then went into the zone creation
and adjusted my zones. I was sure to follow the rules about matching
verticies, etc.</div>
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<div>Now i am getting errors concerning the zone and plenum.
It
appears that the program is still seeing plenums and walls that are now
non-existent. The program says that plenums are being referenced but
are not defined (see error message below).</div>
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<div>Anyone got any ideas on how to clear this?</div>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR****************************************************************************************</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR*****EL3 East Perim
Plnm (G.E6) was referenced on line 14898 but never</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span><span> </span>defined.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR****************************************************************************************</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR*****EL3 West Perim
Spc (G.W4) was referenced on line 15237 but never</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span><span> </span>defined.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR****************************************************************************************</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>*ERROR*****EL3 WNW Perim
Plnm (G.WNW7) was referenced on line 15377 but never</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span><span> </span>defined.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span> </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span> </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>****************************************<span>
</span>5 ERRORS</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>****************************************<span>
</span>2 WARNINGS</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>****************************************<span>
</span>103 CAUTIONS</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span><span> </span>*20195*
COMPUTE
..</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span><span> </span>*20196*
STOP
..</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span>****************************************<span>
</span>5 ABORT-LEVEL DIAGNOSTICS </span></p>
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