<div>Since I'm still learning and experiencing this wizard tool for zone groups, how or where do you assign different occupancy types/schedules to different areas? Let's say for example i had a building with retail on the ground floor and residential on the upper floors, how or where do I select two different sets of operating schedules for the two different types of spaces? Or can this even be done from this function.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Before I knew how to do this zone grouping thing in the wizard I would have input these two different spaces as separate shells so that I could classify them with different schedules...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>am I missing something or not?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>thanks,</div>
<div>Pasha<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Nick Caton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com">ncaton@smithboucher.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">For completeness, for those learning or re-learning these wizard screens, let me offer a related caution:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I always end up defining my own zone groups to be sure everything has the occupancy scheduling that fits best, however there’s a hidden danger: <u>DO NOT</u> delete the default zone groups before <u>first</u> creating a new one. You will otherwise potentially crash out your wizard model and be unable to move forward. I’ve done this twice (fool me once…), so it’s pretty well ingrained in my active memory – but hopefully this will help others avoid a headache!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">~Nick</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><img alt="cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CB1DCF.F4A12B70" width="119" height="37"></span><b><span style="COLOR: #2d4d5e; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #2d4d5e; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #2d4d5e; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style="COLOR: #2d4d5e"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #cc9900; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">PROJECT ENGINEER</span><span style="COLOR: #cc9900; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #2d4d5e; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">25501 west valley parkway</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #2d4d5e; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">olathe ks 66061</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #2d4d5e; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">direct 913 344.0036</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #2d4d5e; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">fax 913 345.0617</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="COLOR: #2d4d5e; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Check out our new web-site @ </span></i><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><a title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com" href="http://www.smithboucher.com/" target="_blank"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span></u><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Brooks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez<br><b>Cc:</b> eQuest user forum
<div class="im"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] activity area allocation and zone groupdefinitions</div></span>
<p></p></p></div></div>
<div class="im">
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you so much. YOur description is how I thought things would/should work, but, as Ronnie said many years ago "Trust, but verify"!</p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am again a happy camper for now.</p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class="MsoNormal" align="center"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<hr align="center" size="1" width="100%">
</span></div>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez <<a href="mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com" target="_blank">pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Brooks <<a href="mailto:equestpaul@yahoo.com" target="_blank">equestpaul@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> eQuest user forum <<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wed, July 7, 2010 12:46:54 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] activity area allocation and zone group definitions</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Paul,</p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">These screens were an anomolie (sp?) to me until just this year thanks to a younger fellow simulator who uses them quite efficiently. In fact, I always skipped out of the wizard when it came to these screens until I took the time to learn how to readjust & reallocate the % space inputs on these screens. After learning to do this I now spend less time on the back-end (ddedit mode) adjusting my HVAC system assignments... Yay!</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here's my attempt to explain what I've learned. I'll call out my colleague Dan W. for help on this one if I mess it up...</p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Screen 13 is your % space based on the WHOLE BUILDING floor area. When you move to screen 14 this is where you actually assign HVAC systems to your zone groups. A zone group is a group of zones that can be assigned to the same HVAC system. (NOTE: at this point you will want to have created your basic HVAC systems types already in the wizard. This was a backward step for me at first, but it works for when you switch to ddedit mode.)</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">So in screen 14 the % space for zone groups is based on the total floor area of all the zones you want to group together. (at this point you should also have a basic take off of floor area for your thermal zones.) Now after you have "grouped" your zones that you want together you need to revise the % space numbers in the top of the screen. (I've included a screen shot of one of my models where I used the zone groups.) Note how I have zeroed-out some of the % space input for other zones that I have not grouped into my specific group I'm calling "Conference Center." With the revised % space numbers make sure that they add up to 100%.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">So to answer your question, when you use Screen 14 correctly these inputs will override screen 13. If I should clarify anything better let me know.</p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Pasha</p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br><br> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Paul Brooks <<a href="mailto:equestpaul@yahoo.com" target="_blank">equestpaul@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone have any idea which of screen 13 or 14 in the DD wizard overides the other? I am using zone group definitions to give dtail on how individual zone space is allocated (screen 14 of 25), but that does not seem to affect the activites area allocation, (screen 13 of 25).</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Anone have any thoughts or experience to share?</p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks! </p></div></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><br>_______________________________________________<br>Equest-users mailing list<br><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org</a><br>
To unsubscribe from this mailing list send a blank message to <a href="mailto:EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG" target="_blank">EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG</a></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>