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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ramesh,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is an odd problem, but for now, I think you need to either
(A) choose a different interior ceiling type (drywall/acoustic), or else (B) go
to detailed, change the “Ceilg Construction” construction to “U-value Input,”
type – 0.87, and then right-click delete the “Ceilg Cons Layers” in the
component tree – either route will allow the model to run.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think this is a bug in the SD wizards…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The SD Wizard-generated layers construction for “Plaster
Ceiling,” for interior ceilings is causing the BDL error as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>*ERROR*****Cannot simulate LAYERS Ceilg Cons Layers as given.
The wall is too<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> thin or too light. THICKNESS and/or DENSITY*SPECIFIC
HEAT is too<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> small. Use U-VALUE CONSTRUCTION.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> COMMON RATIO = 0.0000009191
U-VALUE = 0.8696221113<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>0.87 isn’t odd, and library gyp board is the only layer defined
aside from the final air film layer. The problem goes away if “drywall” or “acoustic”
ceiling is selected instead. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<ramesh@greenevolution.in><br>
<b>To:</b> Nick Caton <ncaton@smithboucher.com>;
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue, 29 June, 2010 11:00:43 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] BDl Error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hi
Nick<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply, as requested please find the attachment of
the complete project file. <br>
<br>
The layers <br>
"Ceilg Cons Layers" = LAYERS<br>
MATERIAL = (
"Gypsum LW Agg 3/4in (GP04)" )<br>
<br>
<br>
"Ceilg Construction" = CONSTRUCTION<br>
TYPE =
LAYERS<br>
LAYERS
= "Ceilg Cons Layers"<br>
<br>
are getting created automatically please let me know where i am wrong. And one
more clarification I had created four storey building if you look at the model
it has an gap of one floor I do not where i am wrong.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Ramesh BR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nick Caton <ncaton@smithboucher.com><br>
<b>To:</b> ramesh buddhi <ramesh@greenevolution.in>;
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon, 28 June, 2010 9:01:00 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] BDl Error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Ramesh,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>For future
reference, you need to send out more than your pd2 file for others to be able
to view your model. In this case, you should at minimum send the pd2/inp,
and you’d want to include the non-library weather file as well if you
anticipated others might need to run simulations to troubleshoot. That
said, I think I can guess at the source of this error without looking at your
model:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>When defining a
custom construction (or modifying a wizard construction) - you cannot
define too many layers using the “simplified” method with only an
R-value. This is how simpler programs like HAP/TRACE operate – I suppose
they assume thermal massing figures, if retained/transferred heat is modeled at
all. This input method for construction layers exists in eQuest
specifically to define things like air film which have no appreciable thermal
mass. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>If the total
defined thermal mass of the wall is too low or zero, the program giving you an
error like this because it is recognizing that the energy model will behave
unlike any real construction.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br>
~Nick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ramesh
buddhi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 25, 2010 2:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] BDl Error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Hi<br>
<br>
I am using eQuest 3-63 can any one help me out on the below error please find
the attachment.<br>
<br>
TYPE=PROPERTIES TH=0.0625 COND=0.1330 DENS=45.0 S-H=0.2 ..<br>
Cannot simulate LAYERS Ceilg Cons Layers as given. The wall is too thin or too
light. THICKNESS and/or DENSITY*SPECIFIC HEAT is too small. Use U-VALUE
CONSTRUCTION.<br>
<br>
<br>
BDL Error<br>
<br>
cannot simulate Layer ceilg cons layers as given. The wall is too thin too light.
Thickness and/or Density*specific heat is too small. Use U-Value construction.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Ramesh BR</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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