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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regarding the pumps – it may seem a little unintuitive,
but look to define the circulation pumps on the loops themselves, not on the
GLHX element. Also, Larry’s posed situation is a little simpler when you
consider that “standby” pumps for redundancy don’t need to be
modeled. Only define the equipment that is running at any given time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you have multiple loops operating staged in parallel, look to
define the # of pumps after doubleclicking the pump in question in detailed mode
(in the component tree). Right click those fields and check those help files
for more info ;).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As may be apparent, you’re not going to get a lot done in
the way of defining an actual system until you’re in detailed mode by the
way – just a heads up in case anyone hasn’t realized that yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>The GSHP curves referenced below are great if you’re
designing around the corresponding Carrier equipment... Some take the approach
of finding the curve corresponding to the equipment that’s the closest
match, others are comfy with drilling their manufacturer reps and determining
the exact info required to create custom performance curves… I’m
aspiring to be the latter category myself =). One thing everyone seems to
agree on is that the library curves (that came with eQuest) for a heatpump
chiller aren’t appropriate for modeling GSHP’s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel
Deese<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 28, 2010 11:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fish, Lawrence; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] GSHP Loops<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>Larry,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I just looked, and I don’t think you can assign a pump to your ground
source heat exchanger. It may depend on the type of the heat exchanger
(lake/well, vertical loop, etc.), so don’t be afraid to try. Under
the heat exchanger properties, click on the “attachments” tab, and
see if you can attach at pump to the loop. The pump/s described on that
tab would be the two 500 gpm pumps you describe. You would then attach
another pump to that circulation loop, and that pump would be your 1,000 gpm
building circulation pump. Technically, your two 500 gpm pumps are acting
as primary pumps for your ground loop heat exchanger, and the 1,000 gpm pump is
acting at the secondary pump serving the building. If eQuest won’t
let you attach a primary pump to your ground loop heat exchanger, I’m
stumped. If you find out that there is a geothermal heat exchanger type
that will allow you to attach a primary pump to it, please respond to the list,
and all would appreciate it. I hope this helps. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>daniel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fish, Lawrence<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] GSHP Loops<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So
I've been lurking on the list for a little bit now and have a 2 questions I was
hoping could be answered. First off, looking around some people say its
necessary to download the GSHP curves( from 2002 located at <a
href="http://www.doe2.com/download/eQUEST/">http://www.doe2.com/download/eQUEST/</a>) while
others say its not, does anyone know the status for the latest version, 3.63b?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Second
question, a modeling question, is in terms of our GSHP. I'm still pretty new to
modeling, so if it a silly question, I apologize. I have 2 500
GPM pumps (+1 Standby) that are pulling water from our well field, and 1
more 1000gpm pump (+1Standby) pumping to the different rooms in our
building. In terms of the attached image, Pump Properties, what Pump(s) is
eQUEST looking for? My pumping to the Well field or to the
building? Do I need to average the pumps I have?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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