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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Connor,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>For a 90.1 baseline/proposed comparison
scenario&#8230; I&#8217;m not certain whether a &#8220;combined plenum&#8221; in
one case is acceptable.&nbsp; A strict reading of Appendix G would lead me to
say &#8220;no,&#8221; but if all plenum zones are generally unconditioned
spaces without systems, the only difference in modeled behavior should be the
thermal lag/buffer between adjacent plenum zones from the partition
constructions (assuming the wizards don&#8217;t make &#8220;air&#8221; type wall
surfaces when generating individual plenums&#8230;).&nbsp; That would probably
not be significant in many cases.&nbsp; It might make a significant difference if
you have core/perimeter terminal units using the plenum as a return air path I
suppose&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The wizards are frankly cryptic
in how they generate plenums for your spaces &#8211; I think it involves
whether you have a &#8220;system per zone&#8221; assigned to the shell&#8230;&nbsp;
perhaps zone group definitions play a role, not sure&#8230;&nbsp; This has led
me into the same situation, with two comparative models having different plenum
layouts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I do not know of any easy/fast way
to recreate or a ton of plenum zones and their associations/surfaces between
two complex models, when they&#8217;ve been combined into one.&nbsp; This is
the sort of things that&#8217;s scattered throughout an .inp file, so it wouldn&#8217;t
be something easy to just copy-paste&#8230;&nbsp; if it&#8217;s an option and
you have the time, I would advise trying to wrangle the wizards into creating the
same plenum configuration in both models, but it would require some guesswork
to figure out how!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jansen,
Connor<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Recreating Plenum Spaces<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Hello All,<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>I&#8217;m looking for some insight on how plenum zones may
or may not affect my modeling outcome.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>The building in question has changed from a 90.1 baseline
system type 6 Packaged VAV to a system 4 Packaged Single zone. The model is
currently using a single plenum zone for the entire floor. I&#8217;ve noticed
in the past (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) that when assigning spaces to HVAC
systems in the wizard it will output individual plenum spaces for corresponding
zones when using single zone HVAC systems and a combined plenum space when
using multizone systems.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Is it necessary to recreate the individual plenums in the
detailed mode if I switch to single zone systems? If so is there a simple way
of doing this?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for the help.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Connor<o:p></o:p></p>

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