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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Pete,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I’m curious. I’ve attempted direct exports from Ecotect
to eQuest, but unsuccessfully. I found that the exports made using the Ecotect Export
Manage>DOE-2/eQuest method produces an DOE-2 input file, but the geometries
exported are overlapping. Such as multiple space polygons stacked on top of
each other. When I looked at the DOE-2 input file, I discovered that no floor
geometry had been created, which is needed for a relative coordinate system that
the space polygons reference. It is worthwhile to review the DOE2 relative coordinate
systems for greater understanding of geometries. This can be found in Volume 1,
Basics (eQuest Help menu> DOE-2 Help > Volume 1 or download PDF file from
the DOE-2 website).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I have yet to experiment with other work flows purported to
work. It looks like you are having some good success. I understand one such
work flow to be from Ecotect (or REVIT) to Green Building Studio and then
exported to eQuest. Is this what’s working for you? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Regarding the rest of the discussion, I can think of two
possible floor/space configuration generation methods. First, You can create a “C”
shaped shell to create a floor with a hole in it, and then insert another shell
within that hole. This appears to be what you have done in your model. However,
In order for the outside shell to register as an “O” the ends of
the perimeter of the “C” shape needs to be within 1 foot. The approximately
adjacent perimeter floor boundaries of the “C” shape will be
created with interior walls when less than 1 foot apart. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Another, space/floor configuration is to consider the arrangement
of occupied spaces and plenum spaces generated by the wizards. In the detailed
mode you could edit a plenum space to be and Occupied zone (Component Tree> Space
Properties > Zone Type). I think this would achieve your stacked spaces within
a floor. If a spans the height of two floors, I’d recommend separate or
multiple shells.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for contributing,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Peter Hillermann
[mailto:e190984026@exchange.1and1.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 21, 2010 5:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Nick Caton'; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Understanding Floors model attachment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I pulled the shades in from
another program. I would die if I had to do all that in eQuest. Would take
hours. My modeler is Ecotect because I do light and solar studies. Once Ecotect
catches up with eQuest on HVAC modeling it will be all good. Unfortunatley it
uses the UK SBEM HVAC profiles. The LEED ones are grayed out so Autodesk is not
quite there yet. Ecotect + eQuest is also cheaper than IES, especially if a person’s
salary depends on it. Ecotect is a great passive modeler you can test building
envelope before touching HVAC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nick Caton
[mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 21, 2010 5:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Hillermann; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Understanding Floors model attachment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Peter, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>At the end of the day, stuff
like this can be really tricky to discuss! Rest assured, anyone getting
offended/slighted as we stumble around helping trying to each other can find
other mailing lists to peruse if it should bother them so much =). I
enjoy helping others in this “public” fashion, in part because it
gives me an opportunity to be corrected and learn others’ perspectives
– I know I’ve turned out better for it!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>As a tangent, I see from your
attachment what appear to be some wicked building shades – did you
painstakingly define those piece-by-piece, or have you figured out some
holy-grail technique of importing geometries as shades from some other program?
If that’s the case and you’re at liberty to share, I’d be
very keen to get pointed in the right direction!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter
Hillermann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 21, 2010 4:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Understanding Floors model attachment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Sorry I forgot to attach my model because I was embarrassed
that my comments might offend someone.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ITC Avant Garde Std Bk";
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