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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Peter, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What do you mean by “I can put more than 1 zone into a space”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Demba.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter
Hillermann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 21, 2010 3:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Pasha Korber-Gonzalez'; 'Sami, Vikram'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Understanding Floors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I can put more than 1 zone into a space. When you go to the HVAC
tab it will show your building together within that space. The problem I had
was overlapping zones, one stacked on top of the other with the same ceiling
height so I broke apart my office into 2 different floors as you can see by the
images. That’s where my question came from.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ITC Avant Garde Std Bk";
color:#1F497D;letter-spacing:1.0pt'>PETER HILLERMANN<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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color:#1F497D;letter-spacing:1.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"ITC Avant Garde Gothic Demi";
color:#1F497D;letter-spacing:1.0pt'><a
href="mailto:peterh@westallarchitects.com">peterh@westallarchitects.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:75%'><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:
14.0pt;line-height:75%;font-family:"ITC Avant Garde Std Md";color:#1F497D;
letter-spacing:1.0pt'>westall</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:14.0pt;
line-height:75%;color:#1F497D;letter-spacing:1.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D;letter-spacing:1.0pt'>3404 pierce drive<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"ITC Avant Garde Gothic Demi";
color:#1F497D;letter-spacing:1.0pt'>westallarchitects.com</span><span
style='color:#1F497D;letter-spacing:1.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Pasha
Korber-Gonzalez [mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 21, 2010 2:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sami, Vikram<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nick Caton; Peter Hillermann; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Understanding Floors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I'm with Vik- I thought it was only one space to one zone,
but if someone has a new way of things, please share...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>pkg<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Sami, Vikram <<a
href="mailto:Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com">Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Nick,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>How do you group multiple spaces in one zone? I always
thought you could do only one space per zone. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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src="cid:image005.jpg@01CB115D.F51F48D0"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>Vikram Sami</span></b><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>, LEED AP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>Sustainable Design Analyst</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=ES style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>404.892.5823 </span><span
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target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray;text-decoration:none'>www.perkinswill.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Nick Caton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 21, 2010 2:00 PM <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Hillermann; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> Re: [Equest-users] Understanding Floors</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Hey Peter,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>If by “stack” you mean place one space geometrically over
another, the answer is yes. If you mean to ask whether zones can group
spaces in different elevations, the answer is also yes. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>However, I would like to hammer out your wording again to
be sure we’re on the same page! I think you meant to ask “Can you stack a
space in a shell?” Spaces are normally “inside” shells in a geometrical
sense, as they are generally within the shell footprint/boundaries.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Zones, in contrast, have nothing to do with geometries –
they are simply groupings of spaces with some extra HVAC/airflow properties
tacked on. Those spaces could be all over the place – at different
elevations, within different shells… pretty much any combination from my
experience.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Best of luck! If you are getting tripped up,
remember a picture is worth a thousand questions (?)…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'><br>
~Nick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>PS to all: The SD/DD Wizards are, in my mind, kinda
misleading with regard to helping new users understand the distinction between
“space” & “zone.” Some work in detailed mode will eventually lead you
to understand, but the Wizard screens inconsistently interchange the terms and
may cause others confusion in the long run… See my description below for a
simple breakdown if you are cutting your teeth on eQuest ;).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Peter
Hillermann [mailto:<a href="mailto:peterh@westallarchitects.com" target="_blank">peterh@westallarchitects.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 21, 2010 12:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nick Caton; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Understanding Floors</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Nick,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks again. Can you stack a space in a zone?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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1.0pt'>3404 pierce drive</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ITC Avant Garde Std Bk";letter-spacing:
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1.0pt'>f 770.458.5352</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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1.0pt'>c 678.898.2936</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"ITC Avant Garde Gothic Demi";letter-spacing:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Nick
Caton [mailto:<a href="mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com" target="_blank">ncaton@smithboucher.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 21, 2010 12:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Hillermann; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Understanding Floors</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Peter, I think you might be leading yourself into some
unnecessary confusion with your word choices…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>eQuest has 3 distinct entities:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span><u><span style='color:#1F497D'>Shells</span></u><span style='color:#1F497D'>
are simply groups of spaces</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span><u><span style='color:#1F497D'>Spaces</span></u><span style='color:#1F497D'>
are geometrical volumes, which may or may not have floors, walls, ceilings,
windows, etc. tied to them. Internal loads / daylighting / occupancies
are attributed to spaces. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span><u><span style='color:#1F497D'>Zones</span></u><span style='color:#1F497D'>
are simple entities that include one or more spaces, with additional HVAC
attributes like thermostat and airflow specifics. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>You’re using “floors” to interchangeable discuss all the
above, it seems. For clarity when discussing eQuest, “floors” are merely
the constructions we walk on, normally one attribute of a “space.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>All that said, it’s entirely possible to model a “box
within a box,” as you’re describing. You are limited in the wizards (by
their nature) with regard to defining zones/footprints… the best approach
depends on the nature of the space footprints you want to model. If it’s
very simply two stacked cubes enclosed within a larger cube, I’d personally model
one shell, with one space carved out of the middle. Then I’d use the
detailed mode to shrink that space volume and partition/ceiling dimensions to
match the first floor office, then copy the entire space and its componenents
for the second floor. I’d adjust the largest cube’s volume (it’s a space
property) to correct the conditioned volume, and be sure all partitions are
correctly associating the three spaces together… With all spaces sorted
out, ensure your three spaces are correctly grouped with regard to “zones,” for
association with your HVAC system(s).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Clear as mud =)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='color:#2D4D5E'>~Nick</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Peter Hillermann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 21, 2010 10:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Understanding Floors</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>To
All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
just want to make sure I understand the properties behind floors. If you have a
square building volume with a smaller square inside it that has 2 levels. EG:-
an atrium as main space with 2 levels that are offices. There will be a total
of 3 floors in your model. Atrium floor, first floor office and second floor
office. Each of these will have a designated floor to floor height. You cannot
put one zone inside another on the same floor.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Is
this correct?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks,
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ITC Avant Garde Std Bk";
letter-spacing:1.0pt'>PETER HILLERMANN</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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