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color:#1F497D'>If you have the time, would you mind explaining/suggesting the
efficiencies that might come from starting with SD, then converting to the DD
wizards? Every project I’ve ever performed has been DD from the get-go,
and when I have explored SD it appears to my untrained eye to be a kind of
linear, simplified version of the DD wizards….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>To stick my neck out a bit – I fairly regularly have
projects where we start modeling at a stage when space zoning assignments and
system arrangements are quite fluid – it can be handy to define every
space in the wizard zone maps to allow for full flexibility later on, and this
often results in building a shell-per-floor, with each floor receiving a unique
zonal space layout.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>I wouldn’t dream of trying this approach on a high-rise
building, but with projects of up to 3-4 stories, things generally seem
manageable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>To Ju-Yeon’s situation (do understand I am one of the less-experienced
contributors here): <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>I would emphasize using as few footprints for your 9-story
building as is acceptable. I would start in the DD wizards, creating a
shell for each block of floors using the same footprint. I’ve read
that you can group your hi-rise shells in a way that simplifies things
thermally without losing accuracy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>For example, if you have three typical floor plans, and they
were ordered as such: (ground) A,B,A,B,C,C,B,B,B (roof) - I would
suggest building 3 shells as follows: [A,A],[C,C],[B,B,B,B,B]. In
this way, you at most need to define only three sets of everything to start,
and you’re simultaneously ensuring the lowermost and highest floors,
which receive significantly different envelope loads, have the correct floor plan
tied to them. Remember the systems you define can ultimately be tied to
any combination of zones across different shells.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John
Aulbach<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ju-Yeon Julie Shin; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] SD or DD?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Ju-Yeon:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>You need to be in the DD Wizard to create different floor
footprints. The SD Wizard only allows a single footprint.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I would start in the SD Wizard, getting all of your
window/wall roof constructions, general hours of operation, and system type
(s). Not knowingwhat your zones will look like, I would set the
zoning pattern to one zone per floor (for now).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Once this is set up, then change to DD Wizard to start
creating your unique floors. Then you can uniquely set put your zones on a
floor by floor basis.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Do you mean EVERY floor footprint is different from the
others? This is a very unusual building.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ju-Yeon Julie Shin
<juyeon519@hotmail.com><br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue, June 15, 2010 1:13:13 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] SD or DD?<br>
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Hello everyone I am new to eQUEST and have a question about what to use.<br>
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The building I am working on has 9 storeys and each single floor footprint is
different.<br>
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The first three floors are part of a podium building and the rest is
office.<br>
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In order to create different footprints and finish all the rest of the
eQUEST inputs,<br>
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1) do I have to build a first floor on the SD wizard and finish all 40ish
pages, AND THEN go to the DD wizard <br>
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creating new shells for the rest and new HVAC systems, or<br>
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2) do I just go the the SD wizard from the beginning to create all different
building footprints?<br>
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Thank you for your help:) <o:p></o:p></p>
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