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<DIV>It is a very wierd application, except for a non-US project. the project happens to be in South America.</DIV>
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<DIV>The equipment is Trane, but European manufactured. It is equipment and systems that is not common to the US market. </DIV>
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<DIV>FYI, using heat pumps to produce chilled and hot water is not uncommon.</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> "Ramirez, Bob" <Bob.Ramirez@itron.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Paul Brooks <equestpaul@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tue, June 8, 2010 1:54:14 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Equest-users] how to model an air cooled heat pumpfor hot water<BR></FONT><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Paul. This is either a really weird application, or this is a <U>water-loop heat pump</U> that uses the water loop (rather than air) for it’s heat sink-source (not to provide cool/heat directly to the conditioned space).</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The heat pump should provide cooling/heating <U>directly</U> to the conditioned space, not indirectly via a water loop.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If this is a WLHP, I would highly recommend that before you do any modeling, you become familiar with at least the most common types of HVAC systems, or read the DOE2 manual on such.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul Brooks<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:45 AM<BR><B>To:</B> eQuest user forum<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Equest-users] how to model an air cooled heat pumpfor hot water</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I have a system that is using an air cooled heat pump to provide chilled water for cooling, and or hot water for heating. I tried modeling an aircooled heat pump, but was unable to connect the heating side to the hot water loop. </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>It seems the best thing to do is to model an electric boiler, and make the operating chatictaristics mimic a heat pump. any thoughts? </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thank you</P></DIV></DIV>
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