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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Alan, unfortunately just because
it is in the DOE2.2 manual doesn’t mean eQuest can do it – the interface
is very well featured, but perhaps not quite 100% of all routines. Did you
try this with a text editor? Maybe try running the simulation from the
command line instead of eQuest if you haven’t already.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steven
Savich<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 28, 2010 10:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jackson, Alan'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] [Bldg-sim] Interior window creation</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Alan,</span></p>
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color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Couple thoughts:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Which space(s) are you defining with interior windows?
Those receiving light from outside, or the interior spaces receiving light
through interior windows?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Have you looked in the help files under sunspace? There's
a help page titled "</span>Error, Caution, and Warning Messages"<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
specific to sunspaces. Have a look at your .sim file and see if you're
getting error messages matching anything in the error list.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">If I'm barking up the wrong tree, can you re-post the .pd2 &
.inp files to the list so we can have another look? If you do, tell us
which room(s) are supposed to be receiving daylight and to which space(s)
it/they are passing light.</span></p>
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color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Steven</span></p>
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color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jackson,
Alan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 28, 2010 6:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carol Gardner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] [Bldg-sim] Interior window creation</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">I apologize, late in the day I sent that to the wrong mailing
list. Moving discussion over to EQUEST-USERS</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Carol,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">I read this same section of the DOE2 documentation, but my
question is what did I do wrong. I followed the instructions in placing the
window definition aftetr the interior-wall definition, and it doesn’t
work.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:15.0pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alan
Jackson, LEED AP<br>
KlingStubbins</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Carol Gardner
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cmg750@gmail.com">cmg750@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nick Caton<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jackson, Alan; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Interior window creation</span></p>
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<h3><a name="_Toc226183797">Sunspace Elements</a></h3>
<p class="bodytextarialbold"><span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">Interior
Windows</span></p>
<p class="MsoBodyText"><span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">Interior
windows</span> can be specified by following an <span style="color:white;
background:#316AC5">INTERIOR</span>-WALL command by one or more <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">WINDOW</span> commands. <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">Interior</span> walls can have <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span>. The keywords for <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior windows</span> are the same as
those for exterior <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span>,
with some exceptions:</p>
<p class="MsoListNumber" style="margin-left:.25in"><span style="font-family:"Tms Rmn","serif"">1.
</span>The following keywords are unused:<br>
<br>
FRAME-WIDTH
SETBACK<br>
GLARE-CTRL-PROB
SHADING-DIVISION<br>
GLASS-TYPE-SW
SWITCH-CONTROL<br>
GND-FORM-FACTOR
SWITCH-SCH<br>
INF-COEF
SWITCH-SET-HI<br>
LEFT-FIN-A,
etc.
SWITCH-SET-LO<br>
OVERHANG-A,
etc. VIS-TRANS-SCH<br>
RIGHT-FIN-A,
etc.
WIN-SHADE-TYPE</p>
<p class="MsoListNumber" style="margin-left:.25in"><span style="font-family:"Tms Rmn","serif"">2.
</span>SKY-FORM-FACTOR multiplies the total diffuse radiation incident on an <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior window</span>. If the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior window</span> has a setback
(relative to the sunspace) or there are obstructions inside the sunspace that
shade the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior window</span>,
a value of SKY-FORM-FACTOR less than 1.0 should be specified (the default value
is 1.0).</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">Shading devices on <span style="color:white;background:
#316AC5">interior windows</span>, like Venetian blinds, drapes, or pull-down
shades, can be simulated via the keywords SHADING-SCHEDULE and
MAX-SOLAR-SCH. Movable insulation on <span style="color:white;background:
#316AC5">interior windows</span> can be modeled using keywords CONDUCT-SCHEDULE
and CONDUCT-TMIN-SCH.</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">For an accurate calculation of the solar radiation
transmitted by a sunspace <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior
window</span>, it is important to specify the X and Y coordinates of the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">window</span>. These coordinates
are measured with respect to the lower-left hand corner of the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">INTERIOR</span>-WALL as viewed in the
NEXT-TO space (see “<span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">INTERIOR</span>-WALL
Command” in the <i>DOE-2.2 Dictionary</i>). The position of exterior <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span> should also be carefully
specified. The program will only recognize <span style="color:white;background:
#316AC5">interior windows</span> in an <span style="color:white;background:
#316AC5">interior</span> wall between a sunspace and a non-sunspace.</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">Sliding glass doors can be modeled as <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior windows</span>. If the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> wall containing the
glass door has AIR-FLOW-TYPE = FREE-DOORWAY (see WALL-PARAMETERS, below), the
door will be assumed to be open and convection through the opening will be
calculated if T(sunspace) - T(adjacent space) > AIR-FLOW-CTRL-DT.</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">Additional control of the opening and closing of the door
can be obtained by using SS-FLOW-SCH (see description of ZONE keywords, below).</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">An unglazed opening in a sunspace <span style="color:white;
background:#316AC5">interior</span> wall can be input as a <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">window</span> with GLASS-TYPE-CODE = 0.
The program will calculate the solar radiation passing through the opening by
using a transmittance of 1.0 for all angles of incidence. WALL-PARAMETERS data,
described below, would be entered for the <span style="color:white;background:
#316AC5">INTERIOR</span>-WALL to specify the convective air flow through the
opening.</p>
<p class="bodytextarialbold"><span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">Interior</span>
Doors</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">Unlike exterior walls, <span style="color:white;
background:#316AC5">interior</span> walls in cannot have doors. However,
an opaque <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> door
with a conductance significantly different from the sunspace <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> wall containing it can
be input as a separate <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span>
wall. Alternatively, the door can simply be ignored if the conduction
across it is small compared to the overall conduction across the wall.
The program will calculate convection through a fully or partially open door if
AIR-FLOW-TYPE = FREE-DOORWAY and appropriate values of DOORWAY-H and DOORWAY-W
are specified (see WALL-PARAMETERS, below).</p>
<p class="bodytextarialbold">Use Glass Type not Shading Coefficient for Sunspaces</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">You should use GLASS-TYPE-CODE rather than SHADING-COEF
for sunspace exterior <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span>.
This allows the program to accurately calculate the hourly direct and diffuse
radiation transmitted by the glazing. This is not possible with
SHADING-COEF except for standard 1/8" clear glass.</p>
<p class="bodytextarialbold">Use Custom Weighting Factors for Sunspaces</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">Custom Weighting Factors (CWFs) should be used for
sunspaces for several reasons:</p>
<p class="MsoListNumber" style="margin-left:.25in"><span style="font-family:"Tms Rmn","serif"">1.
</span>For high conductance spaces, the precalculated (ASHRAE) weighting
factors overestimate heating and cooling loads. The overestimate can be
as high as 25-30% for heavily glazed spaces.</p>
<p class="MsoListNumber" style="margin-left:.25in"><span style="font-family:"Tms Rmn","serif"">2.
</span>CWFs account for loss of solar gain due to reflection of sunlight back
out of exterior <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span>.</p>
<p class="MsoListNumber" style="margin-left:.25in"><span style="font-family:"Tms Rmn","serif"">3.
</span>CWFs give a more accurate calculation of the generally large temperature
swings in a solar-driven space.</p>
<p class="MsoListNumber" style="margin-left:.25in"><span style="font-family:"Tms Rmn","serif"">4.
</span>CWFs will automatically be calculated for any space with FLOOR-WEIGHT =
0 (the default value). Otherwise, the program will use ASHRAE weighting
factors.</p>
<p class="bodytextarialbold">Positioning Surfaces</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">For an accurate calculation of solar radiation falling on
the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> walls of a
sunspace, the bounding surfaces of the sunspace need to be geometrically
positioned. This applies to the exterior walls and roofs and their associated <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span>, and the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> walls and their
associated <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span>. We
recommend that a sunspace <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span>
wall be defined in the sunspace rather than in the adjacent room.
Otherwise, the adjacent room must be properly located with respect to the sunspace.
If this is not done, the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span>
walls and <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span> will be
mispositioned relative to the sunspace exterior <span style="color:white;
background:#316AC5">windows</span>, and the projection of solar radiation from
the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span> onto the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> walls will be
incorrect. This will give a wrong calculation of the solar radiation
transferred from sunspace to room. Even in this case, there will be no
fictitious overall solar gain or loss since the solar that stays in the
sunspace plus that transferred to adjacent rooms is constrained by the program
to equal that entering the sunspace. There will, however, be an error
message if the transferred solar exceeds the entering solar, which would give a
net negative solar gain in the sunspace. This may occur if <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> walls or <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span> on them overlap, if a
multiplier is used on an <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior
window</span>, or if a multiplier is used on rooms adjacent to a sunspace.</p>
<p class="bodytextarialbold">Massive <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">Interior</span>
Walls</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">Sunspace <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span>
walls are often fairly heavy, leading to a significant time delay in the heat
transfer across them by conduction. Such walls should be described by
response factors, i.e., with a delayed-type construction.</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">The order of defining layers in a delayed <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> wall is from
"outside" to "inside", where "outside" is the
side of the wall in the NEXT-TO space, and "inside" is the side in
the space in which the wall was defined. If, as recommended, the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> wall is defined in the
sunspace, then the outside of the wall is the side in the adjacent room.</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">Delayed conduction through <span style="color:white;
background:#316AC5">interior</span> walls is calculated only for sunspace <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> walls. For other <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span> walls the hourly
conduction is quick.</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">Delayed conduction through an <span style="color:white;
background:#316AC5">interior</span> between two non-sunspaces can be obtained
simply by assigning SUNSPACE = YES to one of the spaces, even though the space
is not actually a sunspace. In this case, If the solar flux on the
"sunspace" side of the wall is small, it is recommended that
INSIDE-SOL-ABS = (0,0) be input for the wall in order to zero out absorption of
solar radiation. Otherwise, all <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span>
and exterior walls and <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span>
in the "sunspace" should be geometrically positioned as described
above in "Positioning of Sunspace Surfaces".</p>
<p class="bodytextarialbold">Moisture from Plants and Trees</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">Atriums often have plants and trees. Moisture transpiring
from leaves and evaporating from soil can produce a significant latent load.
You can model this load using the source keywords in SPACE as follows:</p>
<p class="doe-2input">
SOURCE-TYPE = PROCESS<br>
SOURCE-LATENT = 1.0<br>
SOURCE-SENSIBLE = 0.0<br>
SOURCE-POWER = [latent load in Btu/hr or W]<br>
SOURCE-SCHEDULE = U-name of schedule</p>
<p class="bodytextarialbold">Baffles and Louvers</p>
<p class="MsoBodyText">Baffles and louvers on sunspace exterior <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">windows</span>, which block and/or
diffuse incoming beam radiation, can be modeled as blinds using the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">WINDOW</span>-LAYERS keyword in the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">WINDOW</span> command. See “<span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">Window</span> Layers Method” in
the <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">Window</span> topic. The
blinds can be <span style="color:white;background:#316AC5">interior</span>,
exterior or between pane. They can be controlled in different ways to manage
solar gain.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Caton <<a href="mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com">ncaton@smithboucher.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Alan, </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">To my understanding, you simply cannot put a window on an
interior wall. The best approximation may be as follows:</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#1F497D">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;
color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#1F497D">Keep the internal wall in it’s entirety –
this will model heat transfer to the adjoining space correctly… if
it’s a large internal window consider adjusting the internal
partition’s properties to match the effective thermal mass/U-value.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#1F497D">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;
color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#1F497D">Create a new external wall, of any construction layers,
on top of the interior wall with the exact (maybe rounded) area of the window</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#1F497D">3.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;
color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#1F497D">Create a window on that exterior wall with that exact
area and with matching properties to the real glazing with one exception:
Give it a ridiculously low U-value to effectively eliminate what would be the
modeled thermal transfer interactions with the exterior.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#1F497D">4.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;
color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#1F497D">Assign window shades to model the solar shading effects
of the adjacent space (ceiling/walls).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Best of luck!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">~Nick</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jackson, Alan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:47 PM</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Re: [Bldg-sim] Interior window creation</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">I am attaching the pd2 and inp, just so someone can
confirm they get the same error. I am on a 64-bit machine so I have been getting
weird warnings and error to begin with back when I was using the wizard.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
line-height:15.0pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">Alan Jackson,
LEED AP<br>
KlingStubbins</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jackson, Alan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Interior window creation</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
am attempting to create an interior window to allow solar gains to pass through
a sunspace to an adjacent space. I am getting to the following warning when
attempting to create a window component on the interior wall.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><img border="0" width="428" height="119" id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.png@01CAFE4F.503C21B0"></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As
a work around I changed the wall to EXTERIOR-WALL in order to add the windows
then planned on changing back to INTERIOR-WALL but when I open the project I
get a warning saying “A PARENT EXTERIOR-WALL must be defined before
..”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
know you can create interior windows and use them in conjunction with sunspaces
as the DOE2 manual specifically calls out this scenario. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">What
am I doing wrong?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
line-height:15.0pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt">Alan Jackson, LEED AP<br>
KlingStubbins</span></p>
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