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color=#0000ff size=2>I do not have a strong opinion on this issue because it
offers a service not currently available. But to me the issue is one of
effect on the whole eQuest community. My fear is that once this service is
offered, many who have spent their valuable time offering free advice will tend
to back off and let the paid services take up the slack. This will
probably reduce the usefulness of the current list and leave small firms and
individuals without extra cash out. This may eventually reduce or
destroy the value of the free list service. The future of DOE2 and eQuest
depends on young beginners who currently have little money and need the free
help.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=891014819-26052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=891014819-26052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>This list is one of the few truly valuable free services
available in the world today. It provides a forum for old codgers like me
to mentor those younger and less experienced (those who need help the most and
can afford it the least), and, currently, I am in good
company.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=891014819-26052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Glenn</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dakota
Kelley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:14 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Carol
Gardner; eQUEST Users List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] eQUEST Help
Desk Funding<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Let
me cut through the philosophical stuff and set a starting bid: were I to find
myself in need, I would pay $125/hr for one-on-one, pay-per-use,
phone/WebEx-style assistance, billed in 0.25 hr increments or each fraction
thereof, with a minimum charge of 0.5 hrs. This assumes the person
providing the help has both a mechanical engineering degree and years of eQUEST
experience, which appears to fit your description. If Portland has not
eliminated your Canadian accent, I would gladly pay aboot $126/hr..what’s
another loonie, eh? Naturally, there would be a high expectation that you
should be able to solve nearly any issue somewhat quickly, and you would have to
determine how you want to handle issues you are unable to resolve.
However, I have no qualms about charging or paying for one-on-one help…it’s
called “consulting”. In my early days I posted a couple questions and
received no responses – I could’ve just as easily been talking to my HP DeskJet
while printing “I hope that helps” messages to myself. Having an
alternate, fee-based help resource would have been a blessing.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">If
I may enter the philosophical arena for a minute, I’m amazed by the eQUEST users
who will comfortably charge their clients thousands of dollars for a model,
using “free” software, but <I>expect</I> free assistance and get up in arms when
anyone brings up the idea of fee-based help (or that it would be brought up on a
forum created <I>for</I> eQUEST help). There has been talk about helping
for “the greater good of the modeling community”, but I don’t find it to be
intellectually honest. Such a notion is predicated on an equal
contribution from all participants, but the reality is that there are far more
help-seekers than help-providers, and such will always be the case with
voluntary forums. Quick questions that can be answered in five minutes are
not an issue, and the forum is wonderful for that, but when it turns into me
taking an hour or two to go through someone’s model for free, while they get
paid for my findings, is not inherently good for me or the community. It
has been done for me in the past, and I have paid it forward. However,
there are not enough active participants to make this standard operating
procedure. I also refute the notion that having an alternate help source
undermines the forum; the two are not mutually exclusive.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">So,
Carol, please put out your shingle. I might break my model just for an
excuse to call you.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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DAKOTA KELLEY</SPAN></B><SPAN
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Office: 214-744-6199<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Cell:
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Carol Gardner
[mailto:cmg750@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:45
PM<BR><B>To:</B> eQUEST Users List<BR><B>Cc:</B> Benville, Jim;
ed.wall@ee.doe.gov<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Equest-users] eQUEST Help Desk
Funding<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>All,<BR><BR>For the right amount of money, a dedicated land
line, and a dedicated computer, I will function as your dedicated Help Desk. Let
me know who is interested in funding me to be this resource. Let me know how
much you think this resource is worth. As you all know by now unless you've been
sleeping, I am a self-employed professional that takes time to answer your
questions but must quit giving my time away for free. <BR clear=all><BR>--
<BR>Carol Gardner PE<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>