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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Nick,Jon,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It is a wood fireplace, the
procedure described below is well detailed, I just have a doubt on the line 6,
what  would be the source type required by the spreadsheet?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your  time <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It is </span><span
style='color:#1F497D'>greatly appreciated</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>William<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon
Bruneau<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Fire Place<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Is this a wood fireplace? 
If so heat output will vary based on the type of wood, moisture content, and
amount of fuel in the fire box.  You’ll also need to figure out
where combustion air is coming from – the space or ducted from the
outside.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Jon Bruneau, PE, LEED
AP BD+C</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Mechanical Engineer</span></i></b><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Franklin Gothic Heavy","sans-serif";
color:#004080'>F7 Engineering Group</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#004080'>400 10th Street NE,
Suite B, Charlottesville, VA 22902</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#004080'>ph. 434.244.0023</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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href="http://www.f7engineers.com/" target="_blank">www.F7engineers.com</a></span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick
Caton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> William Lopez; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Fire Place<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hey William,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Pull a cutsheet on
the fireplace in question to get the input btu and heating btu incident on the
space at full output.  If it’s not a commercial gas/electric
fireplace with a cutsheet, engineering-judgement the sucker based on something
roughly equivalent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Define a schedule
for the fireplace that matches your definition of  “consistently
used during cold weather.”  Consider a fractional schedule if
it’s not simply ON/OFF.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>In detailed
mode:  Internal loads tab<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Spreadsheet view,
select “Internal Energy Sources”<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Find the space with
the fireplace<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Define a new load
starting with your custom schedule.  Fill the fields in as appropriate
– pretty self-explanatory at this point.  Sensible ratio would be
your BTU incident on the space over the gross consumption.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>7.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Carry around a smug
grin coz’ now you’re the smartest energy modeler in the room!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Rock on,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>William Lopez<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Fire Place<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>I am modeling a cabin log that is heated by electric baseboards
and a fireplace that is consistently used during cold weather.  <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>How can I integrate the fireplace load to the model, what
would be the approach?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for the help.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#31849B'>William
G. Lopez,   CEM<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#943634'>Energy
Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#943634'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#943634'>Buffalo Energy,
Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#943634'>716-677-4899 P<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#943634'>716-677-4722 F<i><o:p></o:p></i></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>william@buffalo-energy.com<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

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