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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Greg, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I did a large amount of Firestone Auto center MEP “site-adapt-the-prototype”
design work for a period of about a year. At some point I needed to verify
some specifics on their prototype CO2/CO sensor ventilation monitoring
equipment for the auto/shop garage area ventilation fans. Without
plugging the manufacturer by name, I recall they had a lot of literature that
was extremely helpful in understanding the operations/function of the system. I’m
sure such manufacturers might have performed the energy studies you’re
looking for and their respective reps would be extremely happy to put such info
in your hands, if you ask.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If it helps to add to the consensus – I was surprised to
learn how little these systems really need to kick the fans on – haven’t
needed to model it yet though.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cam
Fitzgerald<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Stevens; Nathan Miller; Carol Gardner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] CO sensors in parking structures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Greg:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The ASHREA Applications Handbook has a chapter on Enclosed
Vehicular Facilities that has some good information on parking garages that may
help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Have a nice day!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cam Fitzgerald<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg
Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nathan Miller; Carol Gardner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] CO sensors in parking structures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hi Nathan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Could you provide a source for your back-up studies? I would
like to review them, if possible, and see if I can utilize them in my effort.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Greg <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nathan Miller
[mailto:nathanm@rushingco.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Carol Gardner'; Greg Stevens<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] CO sensors in parking structures</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>That is basically how I got credit with the USGBC for CO
controlled parking fans. I provided some back-up studies that showed how rarely
fans have to ramp up in a parking garage. When cars arrive, they are running
hot and are barely emitting CO, so for an office building parking garage there
might not even be much of a morning uptick. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Nathan Miller<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Senior
Energy Engineer/Mechanical Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>direct:
206.788.4577<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>fax:
206.285.7111 </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carol
Gardner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Stevens<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] CO sensors in parking structures<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Greg,<br>
<br>
When I did it way back, I created a schedule to reflect the reduction. My
thinking was along these lines: the baseline schedule would reflect the
occupancy schedule, ie the normal coming and going of people in the building;
the proposed schedule would have a high % when people arrived, go to a min
level for awhile, have another high % at lunch, go to another min lovel for
awhile and then another high % when they left. This all depends on what your
building type/usage is, of course, and requires sound engineering judgment to
do a good job. Document all assumptions, like cars emit CO when they are
running not when they are parked, and when the reviewer asks why say
"because I said so". Oh sorry, don't say that, just provide your
assumptions.<br>
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If you need further assistance, let me know.<br>
<br>
Good night, <br>
<br>
Carol Gardner PE<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Greg Stevens <<a
href="mailto:gregs@aesc-inc.com">gregs@aesc-inc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello
Everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Is
there a way in eQuest to model ventilation fans with CO sensors in parking
structures? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank
you in advance for your help,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Greg
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i>Gregory
W. Stevens</i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:3.0pt'><i>Program
Manager</i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:3.0pt'><b>Error!
Filename not specified.</b><i>Alternative Energy Systems Consulting, Inc.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:3.0pt'><i>760.931.2641
xt. 114</i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:3.0pt'><i>760.438.5020
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